This Week in Fiction

Thomas McGuane on Decency and Feral Charm

托马斯·麦圭恩论体面与野性魅力
The author discusses his story “Ordinary Wear and Tear.”
作者谈论他的短篇小说《寻常磨损》。
April 19, 2026
A photo of Thomas McGuane in purple. The background has some cursive writing on a mint green background.
Illustration by The New Yorker; Source photograph by Laurie McGuane

Your story “Ordinary Wear and Tear” follows the long friendship of two men who grew up together in a small town in Montana, where they both continue to live as adults. How did the characters of Carl and Jed come to you? Did one character lead you to the other, or were they both on the page from the get-go?

我的小说《寻常磨损》讲述了蒙大拿小镇上两个男人跨越数十年的友谊,他们从小一起长大,成年后依然生活在故乡。卡尔和杰德这两个角色是如何诞生的?是一个角色引出了另一个,还是他们从一开始就同时出现在稿纸上?

I don’t know how anything comes to me. I’m sometimes drawn to ideas that fail to thrive as soon as I act upon them. Or an abandoned ember flares into life. I had taken time off around the publication of a book, but I was soon tired of not writing. I set out to work on New Year’s Day, determined to write something. After an uncomfortable spell—backache, feet going to sleep—a couple of faces arose, and I decided to follow them around. Memory and the unconscious came along. After a spell in that pleasant trance, I realized I’d made a mess. I’d have to get to work.

我不知道灵感从何而来。有时我被某个念头吸引,可一旦付诸实践,它就迅速枯萎。有时被遗弃的火星却会重新燃起。新书出版后我休息了一段时间,但很快就厌倦了不写作的状态。元旦那天我决心动笔,非要写出点什么不可。在经历了一段难熬的时光——腰酸背痛、双脚发麻——之后,几张面孔浮现出来,我决定跟随它们游走。记忆与潜意识随之而来。在那种愉悦的出神状态中沉浸片刻后,我意识到自己把事情搞砸了。该认真干活了。

Carl grew up with financial security, went to boarding school, and became a lawyer. Jed was adopted by parents who had little interest in him, had to join R.O.T.C. to pay for college, and always felt he had a more precarious grip on success. How much does the differences in the two characters’ trajectories account for the differences in their personalities?

卡尔成长于优渥之家,就读寄宿学校,最终成为律师。杰德则被缺乏关爱的养父母收养,不得不靠后备军官训练团资助完成大学学业,始终觉得自己对成功的掌控摇摇欲坠。两人人生轨迹的差异,在多大程度上塑造了他们迥异的性格?

Carl’s upbringing contributed to his complacency, for sure. He is unlikely to experience the kind of discomfort that would motivate him to aspire to more, and may think that his decency is a sufficient achievement. In a society like ours, it may be. Jed, for all his charm, is just feral. Few people had a hand in his upbringing. Women are attracted to him, and that has been all the motivation he’s needed. He’s generally thoughtful, but that, too, is part of his apparatus. (“A gentleman is a patient wolf,” Lana Turner said.) His solitary state at the end of the story suggests the future toward which his nature trends.

卡尔的成长环境无疑助长了他的自满。他不太可能经历那种能激励他追求更多的不适感,或许还会认为自己的体面已是足够的成就。在我们这样的社会里,或许确实如此。而杰德,尽管魅力十足,却始终带着野性。几乎没有人参与过他的成长。女性被他吸引,这便成了他所需的全部动力。他通常体贴周到,但这份体贴同样是他生存机制的一部分。(拉娜·特纳说过:"绅士是耐心的狼。")故事结尾时他孤身一人的状态,暗示着他天性所趋向的未来。

Carl is decent but a little dull. Jed behaves badly, and arguably gets more pleasure out of life. The voice of the story inhabits Jed a little more than Carl, perhaps because his behavior would be harder to explain if we weren’t given insight into it. Do you feel more for Jed than for Carl?

卡尔为人正派,却略显乏味。杰德行事乖张,但活得似乎更尽兴。故事的叙述视角更偏向杰德,或许是因为若不深入他的内心,其行为将更难被理解。你是否对杰德抱有更多共情?

I feel that I understand Jed, while Carl is the result of observation. We’re baffled by disruptive or immoral people whom we also like. We view them with a detachment that they don’t have, and are confounded that they can’t see where they’re headed; or we’re unpleasantly surprised when their worst traits lead them to success and happiness.

我觉得自己理解杰德,而卡尔则是我观察的产物。我们常对那些既具破坏性又不道德、却偏偏讨人喜欢的人感到困惑。我们以他们不具备的抽离感审视着他们,惊异于他们竟看不清自己的前路;又或是当他们最恶劣的特质竟引向成功与幸福时,我们感到不快的讶异。

Ultimately, Carl upholds certain moral standards and Jed doesn’t. But Carl is referred to as a “soft touch” and “guileless.” Is his decency an active moral choice or is it a form of passivity that leaves him exposed?

说到底,卡尔坚守某些道德准则,而杰德则不然。但卡尔被形容为"耳根子软"且"毫无城府"。他的正直究竟是主动的道德选择,还是某种让他暴露于危险之中的被动特质?

It’s the culture of his origins, which his passivity keeps him from challenging. He’s a lawyer with little passion for justice. He’d just like to go on being a lawyer and eventually a judge. He’s not fascinated by his wife, but he loves boats.

这是他出身环境的文化,而他的被动性让他无法挑战这一切。他是个对正义没什么热情的律师。他只想继续当律师,最终当上法官。他对妻子并不着迷,但他热爱船只。

Shirley, a woman who moves to the town and marries Carl, becomes a fault line in the men’s friendship. Is their rivalry really about her, or is it about something unresolved between the two of them?

雪莉(Shirley)搬来镇上,嫁给了卡尔,成了两个男人友谊的裂痕。他们的较劲真是为了她,还是两人之间有什么未解的心结?

She raises the temperature until the flaws in the friendship are exposed. Carl’s and Jed’s lives have been ones of amiable incompatibility, which endured in its untested state.

她不断升温,直到友谊中的裂痕暴露无遗。卡尔和杰德的人生始终处于一种融洽却不相容的状态,这种状态在未经考验时得以维系。

Why is the title of the story “Ordinary Wear and Tear”?

为何将故事命名为《寻常磨损》?

It’s a story about mating and its preliminaries, the longing for permanence among unstable humans. Desire is restrained or disorderly, and, in either case, it exacts some toll. That’s hardly unusual; in fact, it’s ordinary. ♦

这是一个关于交配及其前奏的故事,关于不稳定的凡人如何渴望永恒。欲望或被压抑,或失序,而无论哪种情形,它都索取代价。这并不稀奇;事实上,它寻常之极。♦

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