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The Bari Weiss Effect on “60 Minutes”

“六十分钟”的巴里·韦斯效应
CBS News’ editor-in-chief has pledged to “speak for the seventy-five per cent” of people on the center right and the center left; the reality is different.
CBS新闻的主编承诺要“代表百分之七十五的人”发声——即中右与中左阵营的人们;现实却并非如此。
October 18, 2026
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Illustration by Lincoln Agnew; Source photographs from Getty

Close to Christmas in 1968, the journalist Mike Wallace went to Atlanta, Georgia, to the home of Martin Luther King, Jr. Earlier that year, King had been assassinated in Memphis, Tennessee. Now Wallace, filming a segment for a new magazine-style news program called “60 Minutes,” on CBS, sat on the King family’s handsome couch with one leg perched on the seat, looking somewhat ill at ease. A well-appointed Christmas tree feebly defied the air of sorrow in the room. Across from Wallace sat Coretta Scott King, the Reverend’s widow. The King kids were quiet and poised, letting the camera inspect their faces, putting on a show of mild bravery for the nice reporter and all the people out there watching at home. Wallace asked after the family. Was the season sad? Then, zooming out:

1968年临近圣诞节时,记者迈克·华莱士(Mike Wallace)来到佐治亚州亚特兰大,走进马丁·路德·金(Martin Luther King, Jr.)的家。那年早些时候,金在田纳西州孟菲斯遇刺身亡。此刻,华莱士正在为CBS一档名为“六十分钟”的新杂志型新闻节目拍摄片段。他坐在金家那张体面的沙发上,一条腿搭在座面上,看上去有些局促不安。一棵装饰齐整的圣诞树无力地对抗着房间里的哀伤气氛。华莱士对面坐着科丽塔·斯科特·金(Coretta Scott King),这位牧师的遗孀。金家的孩子们安静而镇定,任由镜头审视他们的脸庞,为这位和善的记者以及所有在家收看的观众表演着一场温和的勇敢。华莱士问候了这家人。这个时节是否令人悲伤?然后,镜头拉远:

WALLACE: I think that some of us . . . wonder if the death of Martin Luther King didn’t leave the civil-rights movement, for a lot of people, leaderless, rudderless.

华莱士:我想我们中有些人……想知道马丁·路德·金的离世是否让民权运动——对很多人来说——群龙无首,失去了方向。

KING: I don’t think that this is so—I think that if we are looking for another Martin Luther King, we won’t find him. Because he comes once in a century? Maybe once in a thousand years. But there are many other persons now who will come forth, I believe. . . .

金:我不这么认为——我想,如果我们寻找另一个马丁·路德·金,我们找不到他。因为他一个世纪才出现一次?也许一千年才出现一次。但我相信,现在会有许多其他人站出来……

WALLACE: . . . We hear in the papers, see on television, more about the young Black militant leaders. We hear names like [Stokely] Carmichael and [H. Rap] Brown and [Eldridge] Cleaver and [Huey P.] Newton and [Bobby] Seale. And you begin to wonder if perhaps they aren’t getting more followers than some of the older civil-rights leaders.

华莱士:……我们在报纸上读到,在电视上看到,更多是关于年轻的黑人激进领袖。我们听到诸如(斯托克利·)卡迈克尔(Stokely Carmichael)、(H.拉普·)布朗(H. Rap Brown)、(埃尔德里奇·)克利弗(Eldridge Cleaver)、(休伊·P.)牛顿(Huey P. Newton)和(博比·)西尔(Bobby Seale)这些名字。你不禁会想,他们吸引的追随者是否已经超过了那些年长的民权领袖。

King answered in her artful way, assuring Wallace that there were “many more people” who shared her husband’s commitment to nonviolent struggle than there were young Black radicals of various stripes ready to resort to violence.

金以她巧妙的方式作答,向华莱士保证,认同她丈夫非暴力斗争信念的人“要多得多”,远超过那些准备诉诸暴力的形形色色的年轻黑人激进分子。

The King-shaped moral vacuum had given Wallace a kind of civilizational anxiety. Without the charismatic clergyman, what kind of unruly Black-underclass anger would take the stage? That fear didn’t belong solely to Wallace. “60 Minutes” had come along at just the right time to draw a picture frame around a particularly perilous passage in the landscape of the country. Part of its purpose, from the beginning, was not only to deliver new facts but to interpret ragged events for a nervous audience of relatively prosperous, largely white viewers who shared Wallace’s concern about the shape and tenor of the future. That cohort’s curiosities and anxieties were, it seemed, the unspoken rationale for the new show’s existence. Could America, they all seemed to be asking vicariously, through Wallace’s stentorian voice, ever just be normal again?

金留下的道德真空给了华莱士一种文明层面的焦虑。没有了这位魅力非凡的牧师,什么样的黑人底层怒火会登上舞台?这种恐惧并非华莱士独有。“六十分钟”恰逢其时地出现,为这个国家版图中一段格外凶险的段落框定了画面。从一开始,这档节目的部分目的就不仅是传递新的事实,还要为一批焦虑的观众——相对富裕、以白人为主的观众——解读纷乱的事件,他们与华莱士一样,对未来的形态与基调忧心忡忡。这批人的好奇心与焦虑,似乎正是这档新节目存在的无言理由。他们似乎都在借华莱士洪亮的嗓音,替自己发问:美国,还能不能恢复正常?

The fifty-ninth season of “60 Minutes,” which premièred in September, arrives at a similarly disorienting juncture in the life of the American polity. CBS, the country’s unofficial home for geriatric entertainments—stuff like “NCIS” and the shuffling-zombie game show “The Price Is Right”—has become an unlikely protagonist in a morphing media scene. Last summer, its parent company, Paramount, completed a merger with Skydance Media, an outfit founded by David Ellison, an actor turned media mogul whose father, Larry Ellison, happens to be one of the richest people on the planet. Ellison fils’s most high-profile hiring decision was to enlist Bari Weiss—the former Times Opinion editor and founder of the center-right publication The Free Press—as editor-in-chief of CBS News.

“六十分钟”第五十九季于九月首播,恰逢美国政治生活同样令人迷失的节点。CBS,这个美国老年娱乐节目的非官方大本营——比如《海军罪案调查处》(NCIS)和步履蹒跚的僵尸游戏节目《价格猜猜猜》(The Price Is Right)——竟成了变幻中的媒体格局里一个不太可能的主角。去年夏天,其母公司派拉蒙(Paramount)完成了与天舞传媒(Skydance Media)的合并。后者由大卫·埃里森(David Ellison)创立,这位演员出身的媒体大亨,其父拉里·埃里森(Larry Ellison)恰好是地球上最富有的人之一。小埃里森最引人注目的用人决定,是聘请巴里·韦斯(Bari Weiss)——前《纽约时报》观点版编辑、中右翼媒体《自由新闻》(The Free Press)创始人——出任CBS新闻主编。

Weiss has her own particular vision of American and international normality. Last year, not long after assuming her role atop CBS News, she appeared on a panel at the conservative Jewish Leadership Conference. She understood her new job, she said, as an opportunity to “speak for the seventy-five per cent” of people on the center right and the center left, marginalizing figures like the leftist streamer Hasan Piker and the former Fox News star Tucker Carlson. She wanted to invite into “the room”—the great national agora symbolized by CBS’s airwaves—eminences who could stand at the “forty-yard lines” of reasonable discourse. She’d recently hosted a debate between the permanently discontented lawyer and Epstein pen pal Alan Dershowitz and the conservative polemicist and former N.R.A. spokeswoman Dana Loesch. You know, people like that.

韦斯对美国和国际的“正常”有她自己的一套看法。去年,在她执掌CBS新闻后不久,她出现在保守派犹太领袖会议的一个小组讨论上。她说,她把自己的新工作视为一个机会,去“代表百分之七十五的人”发声——即中右与中左阵营的人们——同时将左翼主播哈桑·皮克(Hasan Piker)和前福克斯新闻明星塔克·卡尔森(Tucker Carlson)这样的人物边缘化。她想邀请那些能站在理性话语“四十码线”上的显要人物进入“这个房间”——那个以CBS电波为象征的伟大国家广场。她最近主持了一场辩论,一方是永远心怀不满的律师、爱泼斯坦的笔友艾伦·德肖维茨(Alan Dershowitz),另一方是保守派论战家、前全国步枪协会发言人达娜·洛施(Dana Loesch)。你知道,就是那样的人。

This deserving three-quarters of the population, as construed by Weiss, includes people who don’t believe in “the world as propagandists and ideologues imagine it to be” but want to know “what’s actually going on in the world”—a world that “used to just be normal.” As my colleague Clare Malone has reported in this magazine, Weiss first came to public attention in college, as a consequence of her support for Israel and consistent denigrations of the Palestinian cause. But perhaps she has always, more fundamentally, been auditioning for a role as a propagandist for a dusty vision of a bygone postwar United States, whose faintly familiar personae and aging slogans masquerading as common sense—“individual responsibility,” “the American project,” “Alan Dershowitz”—are putting up a well-funded fight against the fiercer energies of the age.

按韦斯的理解,这理应得到代表的人口中的四分之三,包括那些不相信“宣传家和意识形态家所想象的世界”、而想知道“世界究竟在发生什么”的人——一个“曾经就是正常的”世界。正如我的同事克莱尔·马龙(Clare Malone)在本刊所报道的,韦斯最初进入公众视野是在大学时期,因为她支持以色列并持续贬低巴勒斯坦事业。但也许从根本上说,她一直在试镜一个角色:为一个蒙尘的战后美国幻象充当宣传员。那个幻象中依稀熟悉的人物和日渐陈旧的口号——伪装成常识的“个人责任”“美国事业”“艾伦·德肖维茨”——正以资金充裕的姿态,与这个时代更凶猛的能量对抗。

You can detect the strain of the effort to erect this cardboard version of the country in the early episodes of the new “60 Minutes,” helmed by executive producer Nick Bilton, whom Weiss hired away from her old digs at the Times. Visually, the show looks a lot like it did before. Each hyper-competently produced segment opens with a journalist standing with wary authority like the Ghost of Christmas Future, inviting viewers to cross the threshold into some harrowing or heartening new way of apprehending reality. The first segment of the new season, hosted by Norah O’Donnell, was about a fighter pilot, code-named Bravo, whose plane was shot down over mountains in Iran. His interview with O’Donnell relates his story—a faulty parachute, a tough crash, a long bloody hike, and survival until he was rescued by an American plane—in a genuinely moving way. Pete Hegseth is interviewed, too, recalling his reaction to the news of Bravo’s crash—“Shit!”—and insuring that the tale is interpreted as an instance of American power wielded nobly and bravely, with a masculine, sporting élan. Early in the segment, O’Donnell calls the ongoing war with Iran “unpopular,” but the rest of the story does nothing to interrogate just why an American fighter jet was zooming through Iranian skies, and whether the exercise was, in the end, worth the very possible loss of Bravo’s life.

在新一季“六十分钟”的早期节目中,你能察觉到搭建这个纸板版美国的努力所承受的压力。该节目由执行制片人尼克·比尔顿(Nick Bilton)掌舵,他是韦斯从《纽约时报》老东家挖来的。视觉上,节目看起来和以前差不多。每一段制作精良的报道都以一位记者开场,他带着警觉的权威站在那里,像“未来圣诞幽灵”一样,邀请观众跨过门槛,进入某种令人揪心或振奋的认知现实的新方式。新一季的第一个片段由诺拉·奥唐奈(Norah O’Donnell)主持,讲的是一位代号“布拉沃”(Bravo)的战斗机飞行员,他的飞机在伊朗上空被击落。他接受奥唐奈的采访,讲述了自己的故事——失灵的降落伞、惨烈的坠机、漫长而血腥的跋涉,以及最终被一架美国飞机救起的生还经历——以真正动人的方式呈现。皮特·赫格塞斯(Pete Hegseth)也接受了采访,回忆他听到布拉沃坠机消息时的反应——“妈的!”——并确保这个故事被解读为美国力量高尚而勇敢地施展的例证,带着一种阳刚的、体育竞技般的潇洒。片段开头,奥唐奈称正在进行的对伊战争“不得人心”,但故事的其余部分丝毫没有追问:一架美国战斗机究竟为什么在伊朗上空呼啸而过?这场行动,归根结底,是否值得布拉沃极有可能付出的生命代价?

One of Bilton and Weiss’s signature new on-air hires is the conservative writer Ross Douthat, formerly an opinion columnist for the Times. His method is often to approach cultural or political phenomena, progressive or reactionary, with a mix of Gen X irony and sincere moralism which, by degrees, subtly shifts the frame of the discourse to the right.

比尔顿和韦斯新聘用的标志性出镜记者之一是保守派作家罗斯·多塞特(Ross Douthat),曾任《纽约时报》观点专栏作家。他的方法往往是带着X世代的反讽与真诚的道德主义去接近文化或政治现象——无论是进步的还是反动的——然后一步步地,把话语的框架微妙地向右推移。

A few episodes into the new season, Douthat interviewed the Republican senator Thom Tillis, of North Carolina. Tillis is the rare Republican lawmaker who has put up some measure of resistance to Donald Trump, opposing the President’s One Big Beautiful Bill. Recently, he called Hegseth’s initial plan to publicly execute the Fort Hood shooter, Nidal Hasan, “beyond disgusting.” Douthat’s interview portrays Tillis as a robust, independent-minded figure, the kind of guy you might dream up in a fugue state of acutely missing John McCain. At one point, Tillis dares Douthat to jump across the tracks of Congress’s private subway system. Douthat, not known for his athleticism, makes it across. So does, of course, the hale Tillis, whose physical fitness, at sixty-six, is mentioned more than once in the segment. Tillis, scrutinized in this very friendly way, seems like the ideal political representative of Weiss’s “seventy-five per cent,” a guardian of an order whose foundations have long since rotted away. In the version of America in which, say, Mitt Romney hadn’t been exiled from the good graces of the Republican base, Tillis might be gearing up for a successful, quite “normal” bid for the Presidency. As the real world stands, he is a man without an obvious wider constituency, whose highest feasible ambition might be the continued admiration of Douthat and Weiss.

新一季播出几集后,多塞特采访了北卡罗来纳州共和党参议员汤姆·蒂利斯(Thom Tillis)。蒂利斯是罕见的对唐纳德·特朗普(Donald Trump)做出过某种程度抵制的共和党议员,他反对总统的“一部美好大法案”(One Big Beautiful Bill)。最近,他称赫格塞斯最初提出的公开处决胡德堡枪击案凶手尼达尔·哈桑(Nidal Hasan)的计划“令人作呕到极点”。多塞特的采访将蒂利斯描绘成一个强健、有独立主见的人物——那种你在极度怀念约翰·麦凯恩(John McCain)的神游状态中可能会幻想出来的人。采访中有一幕,蒂利斯激多塞特跳过国会私人地铁系统的轨道。不以运动能力著称的多塞特跳了过去。当然,健朗的蒂利斯也跳了过去——他六十六岁的身体素质在片段中被不止一次提及。在这种极其友好的审视下,蒂利斯看起来像是韦斯“百分之七十五”的理想政治代表,一个根基早已腐朽的秩序的守护者。在另一个版本的美国里——比如米特·罗姆尼(Mitt Romney)没有被逐出共和党基本盘的好感——蒂利斯或许正在为一场成功的、相当“正常”的总统竞选做准备。而在现实世界中,他是一个没有明显更广泛选民基础的人,其最高可行的抱负,也许就是继续获得多塞特和韦斯的赞赏。

On a recent episode, the longtime correspondent Lesley Stahl reported from the West Bank, where a group of Israeli shepherds called the Hilltop Youth have carried out a series of violent attacks against Palestinian families, attempting to take and settle their land by force. It’s an excellent report, framed by the imminent elections in Israel and the U.S., drawing an implicit portrait of an uncertain but surely bloody future. Soon after that episode aired, it was reported by the media newsletter Status that the in-house screenings for Stahl’s segment had grown “extraordinarily contentious,” with Weiss taking a “very, very hands-on” role in fisking the piece, causing Stahl to consider joining her onetime colleagues Cecilia Vega, Sharyn Alfonsi, and Scott Pelley (who have all been fired since Weiss took over) as former employees of “60 Minutes.” (CBS News has denied the Status report, and defended its own editorial rigor.)

在最近一期节目中,资深记者莱斯利·斯塔尔(Lesley Stahl)从约旦河西岸发回报道。那里,一群被称为“山顶青年”(Hilltop Youth)的以色列定居者对巴勒斯坦家庭实施了一系列暴力袭击,企图以武力夺取并占据他们的土地。这是一篇出色的报道,以以色列和美国即将到来的选举为框架,含蓄地描绘了一个不确定但必定血腥的未来。该期节目播出后不久,媒体通讯《Status》报道称,斯塔尔片段的内部审片过程变得“异常激烈”,韦斯在逐条批驳这篇报道时扮演了“非常、非常亲力亲为”的角色,以至于斯塔尔考虑加入她昔日的同事塞西莉亚·维加(Cecilia Vega)、莎琳·阿尔方西(Sharyn Alfonsi)和斯科特·佩利(Scott Pelley)的行列——这些人自韦斯上任以来均已被解雇——成为“六十分钟”的前雇员。(CBS新闻否认了《Status》的报道,并为其编辑严谨性进行了辩护。)

The fracas makes sense: the war in Gaza, with its wake of corpses and depths of ongoing violence, suggests no neat, reassuring, or “normal” solutions. To move forward and, one day, make reparation would surely mean including voices that might have made Mike Wallace nervous, and perhaps fall well outside Weiss’s favored forty-yard lines. To make “60 Minutes” worth the cost of so much reliable prime-time air would be to admit that we will need to envision, together, somewhere down the line, a new world. ♦

这场风波不难理解:加沙战争,连同其成堆的尸体和深不见底的持续暴力,给不出任何干净利落、令人安心或“正常”的解决方案。要向前走,并在某一天做出弥补,必然意味着纳入那些可能让迈克·华莱士感到紧张的声音,那些很可能远远落在韦斯所偏爱的四十码线之外的声音。要让“六十分钟”配得上如此多可靠的黄金时段播出成本,就得承认:在未来的某个时刻,我们需要共同构想一个新世界。♦

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