The New Yorker Radio Hour

Rachel Goldberg-Polin on Losing a Son in Gaza

蕾切尔·戈德堡-波林谈在加沙失去儿子

The most visible spokesperson for the families of Israeli hostages in Gaza discusses her memoir, “When We See You Again,” and the unending pain of her son’s captivity and murder.

作为以色列人质家属最受瞩目的发言人，她谈到了自己的回忆录《当我们再见到你》，以及儿子被囚禁和杀害带来的无尽痛苦。

WithDavid Remnick

June 12, 2026

When Rachel Goldberg-Polin’s son, Hersh, was taken hostage by Hamas on October 7, 2023, she became a prominent spokesperson for the families of Israeli hostages. Throughout Hersh’s captivity, and then after his murder, Goldberg-Polin, who was born in Chicago and emigrated to Israel in 2008, argued that Israel’s priority should be to bring the hostages home, and that the killing of all innocents, Israeli and Palestinian, must stop. She advocated with Israeli politicians, Pope Francis, and other leaders, and she addressed the Democratic National Convention in 2024. She recently spoke with David Remnick about her new book, “When We See You Again,” and how she has continued her work as a public figure despite unending grief. “People are desperate for us to be angry . . . to feel things that I think that they assume they would feel if they were in the position that we are in. But the truth is, I’m open to feeling anything,” she reflects. “I put Hersh in the ground on September 2, 2024. After that, I’m in a completely different universe.”

2023年10月7日，蕾切尔·戈德堡-波林（Rachel Goldberg-Polin）的儿子赫什（Hersh）被哈马斯劫持为人质，此后她便成了以色列人质家属的知名发言人。在赫什被囚禁期间，以及在他遇害之后，出生于芝加哥、2008年移居以色列的戈德堡-波林一直主张，以色列的首要任务应该是把人质带回家，而且必须停止杀害所有无辜者，无论是以色列人还是巴勒斯坦人。她向以色列政界人士、教皇方济各（Pope Francis）及其他领导人进行游说，还在2024年的民主党全国代表大会上发表了演讲。最近，她与大卫·雷姆尼克（David Remnick）谈起了自己的新书《当我们再见到你》，以及她如何在无尽的悲痛中继续从事公众人物的工作。“人们迫切希望我们愤怒……希望我们去感受那些他们觉得如果身处我们的境地自己会有的情绪。但事实是，我对任何感受都持开放态度，”她沉思道，“2024年9月2日，我把赫什埋入土中。在那之后，我活在一个完全不同的世界里了。”