Shouts & Murmurs

I Give My Kid the Talk

我给孩子上了一堂人生课
Man talking over another person.
Illustration by Luci Gutiérrez

ME: Come sit down, honey.

我:过来坐下,宝贝。

MY KID: Is something wrong, Dad?

孩子:出什么事了吗,爸?

ME: No, nothing’s wrong, sweetheart. Nothing at all. We just need to have a chat.

我:没有,什么事都没有,宝贝。一点事都没有。我们只是需要聊一聊。

MY KID: Is it about the broken vase? Because I cleaned it all up!

孩子:是那个碎掉的花瓶吗?因为我已经全收拾干净了!

ME: You did clean it up. You did a great job cleaning that vase up. It’s something else. You’re getting older, and there are some things you don’t know about. And I want you to hear it from me, your father, instead of some kids at school.

我:你确实收拾干净了。那个花瓶你收拾得特别好。是别的事。你在慢慢长大,有些事情你还不知道。我希望你从我这儿,从你爸爸这儿听到,而不是从学校那些孩子嘴里听到。

MY KID (fidgety): O.K.?

孩子(坐立不安):好吧?

ME: We need to talk about Stephen Sondheim.

我:我们需要谈谈斯蒂芬·桑德海姆(Stephen Sondheim)。

MY KID: St-st-st-stephen who?

孩子:史——史——史——斯蒂芬谁?

ME: Stephen Sondheim. He was a composer and a lyricist. He wrote the best musicals of the twentieth century.

我:斯蒂芬·桑德海姆。他是一位作曲家和词作家。他写了二十世纪最棒的音乐剧。

MY KID (anxiety building): Uh, Dad, I don’t know if I should hear this.

孩子(焦虑渐起):呃,爸,我不知道我该不该听这个。

ME: You have to! The shows are great!

我:你必须听!那些剧太棒了!

MY KID: O-O-K., Dad.

孩子:好——好——好吧,爸。

ME: You’ve probably heard of some of the more popular ones, like “Sweeney Todd” and “Into the Woods”? Maybe from some of the older kids at school?

我:你可能听说过其中一些比较有名的,比如《理发师陶德》(Sweeney Todd)和《拜访森林》(Into the Woods)?也许是从学校里那些大孩子那儿听说的?

MY KID: I did hear an eighth-grade boy say something about “Sweeney Todd.”

孩子:我确实听到一个八年级的男生说起过《理发师陶德》。

ME: What did he say, honey?

我:他说什么了,宝贝?

MY KID: I can’t remember. Just something about the score using dissonant chords?

孩子:我不记得了。就说了些关于配乐用了不协和和弦之类的话?

ME: That’s right, kiddo. That’s very good. What else did he say? It’s O.K. Don’t be scared.

我:没错,孩子。非常好。他还说了什么?没关系。别害怕。

MY KID: He said something about the lyrics being adjusted for Len Cariou, who was the original Sweeney.

孩子:他说了些什么歌词为了伦恩·卡里乌(Len Cariou)做了调整,他是演陶德的原版卡司。

ME: That’s true, too. What else?

我:那也是真的。还有呢?

MY KID: I don’t know, Dad, it was confusing. Something about the story being told exclusively through song?

孩子:我不知道,爸,太让人困惑了。好像说了什么故事完全是通过歌曲来讲述的?

ME: No! That’s not true! This is what I was worried about. This is why I’m glad we’re having this talk. That older boy is wrong—he’s just trying to scare you. “Sweeney Todd” is not exclusively music. There is actually a libretto by Hugh Wheeler.

我:不对!那不是真的!这就是我担心的事。这就是为什么我很高兴我们在谈这个。那个大男孩错了——他只是在吓唬你。《理发师陶德》不全是音乐。它其实有休·惠勒(Hugh Wheeler)写的剧本。

MY KID: H-h-hugh who?

孩子:休——休——休谁?

ME: Hugh Wheeler. A frequent Sondheim collaborator. They met through Hal Prince.

我:休·惠勒。桑德海姆经常合作的人。他们是通过哈尔·普林斯(Hal Prince)认识的。

MY KID (momentarily charmed): They met through a prince?!

孩子(一时被吸引):他们是通过一位王子(Prince)认识的?!

ME: Not a real prince, sweetheart! Just a man named Prince. Now, this older boy—did he mention anything else? Anything that made you feel weird? Did he bring up any of Sondheim’s lesser works?

我:不是真的王子,宝贝!只是一个姓普林斯的男人。好了,那个大男孩——他还提到别的什么了吗?有没有什么让你觉得不对劲的?他有没有提起桑德海姆那些不那么出名的作品?

MY KID: Sondheim had lesser works? I’m scared, Dad!

孩子:桑德海姆有不那么出名的作品?我好害怕,爸!

ME: Don’t be scared, honey! They weren’t lesser in the qualitative sense. Just lesser known. Did he say anything about “Pacific Overtures”? Or “Anyone Can Whistle”? Or “Frogs”? Did this older boy mention “Frogs”?

我:别害怕,宝贝!不是质量上不出名。只是知名度没那么高。他说了什么关于《太平洋序曲》(Pacific Overtures)的吗?或者《人人都能吹口哨》(Anyone Can Whistle)?或者《青蛙》(Frogs)?那个大男孩提到《青蛙》了吗?

MY KID (really nervous now): When’s Mom coming home?

孩子(现在真的紧张了):妈妈什么时候回家?

ME: Mom is out all night.

我:妈妈整晚都在外面。

MY KID: But, Dad, I’m tired!

孩子:可是,爸,我累了!

ME: Then drink a cup of coffee! You must know about Sondheim!

我:那就喝杯咖啡!你必须了解桑德海姆!

MY KID: O.K., O.K.

孩子:好,好。

ME: Good. I’m sorry I got so upset. It’s just, he’s written so many important songs! (Composing myself; a beat) I love you. You know that, right?

我:好了。对不起我刚才那么激动。只是,他写了那么多重要的歌!(让自己镇定下来;停顿片刻)我爱你。你知道的,对吧?

MY KID: Yeah, I know.

孩子:嗯,我知道。

ME: Good. You might be tempted to go online and watch videos.

我:很好。你可能会忍不住上网去看些视频。

MY KID: W-what kinds of videos?

孩子:什——什么样的视频?

ME: Videos of “Cats,” “Les Mis,” “Rent.”

我:《猫》(Cats)、《悲惨世界》(Les Mis)、《吉屋出租》(Rent)的视频。

MY KID: What’s wrong with those?

孩子:那些有什么问题?

ME: They’re not—real, honey. They make musicals look fun, but they’re not real life. Not like Sondheim’s “Company” or “Assassins” or his newly reconsidered “Merrily We Roll Along.” Those shows are real. They’ll stand the test of time. They’ll be revived at City Center and still feel relevant to a modern audience.

我:它们不是——真的,宝贝。它们把音乐剧弄得看起来很有趣,但它们不是真实的生活。不像桑德海姆的《伙伴们》(Company)或《刺客列传》(Assassins),或者他最近被重新审视的《欢乐岁月》(Merrily We Roll Along)。那些剧才是真的。它们能经受住时间的考验。它们会在纽约城市中心剧院复排,而且依然能让现代观众产生共鸣。

MY KID: That’s a lot to remember!

孩子:这要记住的太多了!

ME: Don’t worry. You’re not navigating this alone. Now I need to know—have any of the older kids invited you to see “MJ the Musical” or “Mamma Mia!” or even “Moulin Rouge”?

我:别担心。你不是一个人在面对这些。现在我需要知道——有没有大孩子邀请你去看《MJ音乐剧》(MJ the Musical)或者《妈妈咪呀!》(Mamma Mia!),甚至是《红磨坊》(Moulin Rouge)?

MY KID: No, I don’t think so.

孩子:没有,我觉得没有。

ME: Good. Those are jukebox musicals. And they killed Sondheim!

我:很好。那些是点唱机音乐剧。就是它们杀死了桑德海姆!

MY KID: S-s-sondheim was killed?

孩子:桑——桑德海姆被杀了?

ME: Yes, he was.

我:是的,他被杀了。

MY KID (starting to cry now): But, Dad! Why?! Why did they kill him?!

孩子(现在开始哭了):可是,爸!为什么?!他们为什么要杀他?!

ME: Because they were taking shortcuts and pandering. Like parasites, those jukebox musicals wormed their way into Broadway and slowly killed the medium.

我:因为他们在走捷径,在迎合大众。就像寄生虫一样,那些点唱机音乐剧钻进了百老汇,慢慢地杀死了这种艺术形式。

MY KID: Daddy, I’m scared! Are the jukeboxes going to kill you and Mama? Or me?

孩子:爸爸,我好害怕!那些点唱机会杀了你和妈妈吗?或者杀了我?

ME: No, sweetheart. As long as they keep reviving Sondheim’s work and occasionally gender-swapping Bobby, we’ll be fine.

我:不会的,宝贝。只要他们一直复排桑德海姆的作品,偶尔把鲍比(Bobby)的角色换成女性来演,我们就会没事的。

MY KID: Are you sure?

孩子:你确定吗?

ME: I’m sure, honey. Everything’s going to be O.K. (My kid sniffles and calms down. A nice pause.)

我:我确定,宝贝。一切都会好起来的。(我的孩子抽了抽鼻子,平静下来。一段美好的停顿。)

MY KID: Dad?

孩子:爸?

ME: Yes, hon?

我:怎么了,宝贝?

MY KID: I thought you were going to finally tell me about sex.

孩子:我还以为你终于要跟我讲性方面的事了呢。

ME: No, kiddo. As a Sondheim fan, you’ll never have to know about that. ♦

我:不,孩子。作为一个桑德海姆的粉丝,你永远都不需要了解那件事。 ♦

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