Q. & A.

How the War in Iran Is Transforming the Global Economy

伊朗战事如何重塑全球经济
The green-energy industry, and China, may be the biggest beneficiaries.
绿色能源产业,以及中国,可能是最大的受益者。
A gas pump.
Source photograph by Nhac Nguyen / AFP / Getty

This week, the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development estimated that, even if the United States and Iran soon reach a permanent ceasefire agreement, worldwide economic growth will continue to suffer at least into 2027, and perhaps beyond. It predicts that inflation will remain well above expected levels, too. The war, which has led to the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, has disrupted the flow of global energy supplies. Countries in Asia, which are highly reliant on oil and gas that comes from the Middle East, have been particularly affected.

本周,经济合作与发展组织(OECD)估算,即便美伊很快达成永久停火协议,全球经济增长也将持续受到影响,至少延续到2027年,甚至更久。该组织预测,通胀也将远高于预期水平。这场战争导致霍尔木兹海峡关闭,扰乱了全球能源供应。亚洲国家高度依赖来自中东的石油和天然气,所受冲击尤为严重。

I recently spoke by phone with Peter Harrell, a non-resident fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and an expert in trade and economic policy, to try to understand how the war may affect the global economy in the short and long term. Harrell is also a visiting scholar at Georgetown’s Institute for International Economic Law. During our conversation, which has been edited for length and clarity, we discussed why Trump has been able to convince markets that a peace deal is imminent, how much worse things could get without a quick deal, and the places around the world where the war has caused the most damage.

我最近与卡内基国际和平基金会非常驻研究员、贸易与经济政策专家彼得·哈雷尔(Peter Harrell)通了电话,试图理解这场战争在短期和长期内将如何影响全球经济。哈雷尔同时也是乔治城大学国际经济法研究所的访问学者。我们的对话经过编辑,以兼顾篇幅和清晰度,讨论了特朗普为何能让市场相信和平协议近在咫尺、若无法迅速达成协议局势会恶化到何种地步,以及全球哪些地方因这场战争受损最重。

What has been the biggest economic impact of the war, and in what ways is this impact different, or not, from what you were anticipating several months ago?

这场战争最大的经济影响是什么?这种影响与你几个月前的预期相比,有哪些不同或相似之处?

In terms of what might have been predicted versus where we are, I think one area that I have to unequivocally give Trump and his Administration some credit is their ability to jawbone the markets. We have clearly seen a rise in oil prices. It was up fifty per cent, and it’s still up thirty per cent. We’re clearly seeing impacts on fertilizer prices, on food prices, on inflation. If you are in the developing world, you’re seeing, depending on where you are, physical shortages of energy, and the government trying to tell you to drive less, that sort of thing.

就预测与现实之间的差距而言,我认为有一个领域我必须毫不含糊地归功于特朗普及其政府,那就是他们影响市场预期的能力。我们明显看到油价上涨了。一度涨了百分之五十,现在仍高出百分之三十。我们明显看到了对化肥价格、食品价格和通胀的影响。如果你身处发展中国家,根据所在地区的不同,你会看到实实在在的能源短缺,政府试图告诉你少开车,诸如此类。

On the other hand, we have not seen the catastrophic outcomes of a hundred and fifty or a hundred and eighty dollars a barrel of oil that I think many of us, frankly, would have predicted, back in February, if we had thought that the Strait of Hormuz was going to be closed for more than three months. Trump goes out there and jawbones. He says that it’s ending soon, and the market buys it, and as a result the price impacts, though undeniably quite serious, really haven’t materialized as badly as most of us would have predicted.

另一方面,我们并没有看到油价飙升至每桶一百五十或一百八十美元的灾难性后果。坦率地说,如果在二月份,我们很多人想到霍尔木兹海峡会关闭超过三个月,大概都会做出那样的预测。特朗普站出来喊话。他说战争很快就会结束,市场也信了,结果就是,价格影响虽然不可否认相当严重,但确实没有像我们大多数人预测的那样糟糕透顶。

I’ve noticed this, too. It seems as though every other day you read the Times or the Wall Street Journal and they say, basically, that energy prices have fallen because Trump made some sort of statement about a deal being on the horizon, and you start to wonder if the people who are making markets move have paid attention to politics since 2015. How do you understand it?

我也注意到了这一点。好像每隔一天,你读《纽约时报》或《华尔街日报》,他们基本上都在说,能源价格下跌了,因为特朗普发表了某种关于协议即将达成的声明。你开始怀疑,那些推动市场走向的人,自2015年以来有没有关注过政治。你怎么理解这个现象?

Maybe it’s an irrational response, maybe it’s a rational response. But if I want to treat it as a rational reaction, the way I understand it is that when we entered this conflict, at the end of February, there were more than a billion barrels of stored reserve oil around the world. You had a few hundred million barrels in the U.S., with the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, but there are also lots of private-sector reserves out there. Oil companies have buffers. China actually had a very large reserve of oil. In Japan and South Korea, it’s not just the governments that have reserves but private companies have some, too.

这也许是非理性反应,也许是理性反应。但如果我把它当作理性反应来理解,我的看法是:当我们在二月底卷入这场冲突时,全球有超过十亿桶的储备石油。美国有几亿桶,在战略石油储备中,但私营部门也有大量储备。石油公司有缓冲库存。中国实际上有非常庞大的石油储备。在日本和韩国,不只是政府有储备,私营公司也有一些。

And I think the dynamic we’re seeing, and you can see it over the last couple of months, is that the levels in these reserves have gone off a cliff because people are drawing them down. And I think that what might be going on, if this is rational, is if you think the war is going to end in another two or three weeks it actually just makes sense to pull some of the oil out of your reserves, out of your stockpiles, because you have them, and that’s what they’re for, rather than paying higher prices. What Trump has been able to do by promising the rapid end of the war is to get folks with reserves to just draw down reserves rather than taking more drastic actions to conserve oil or bid up the price even more.

我认为我们正在看到的动态——过去几个月你也能看出来——是这些储备的水平急剧下降,因为人们在动用它们。如果这是理性的,那么背后的逻辑可能是:如果你认为战争再过两三周就会结束,那么从储备中、从库存中取出一些石油来用,而不是支付更高的价格,其实是合理的,因为你手头有这些储备,这正是它们的用途所在。特朗普通过承诺战争迅速结束,所能做到的就是让那些持有储备的人直接动用库存,而不是采取更激烈的措施来节约用油,或者进一步推高油价。

But now, by all accounts, we are reaching the end of that. We don’t really know where China is. China had been packing oil into its reserves last year, or probably over the last two years. And one thing that has happened that has kept prices relatively stable is that, every day, they’ve been buying several million barrels less oil on global markets than they had last year, and they’re clearly doing that by drawing down reserves. But it’s fairly opaque, so we don’t really know how much they have.

但现在,从各方面来看,我们正接近这种方式的极限。我们不太清楚中国的状况。中国去年,或者很可能在过去两年里,一直在往储备里囤油。而让价格保持相对稳定的一件事是,他们现在每天在全球市场上购买的石油比去年少了几百万桶,显然是在通过消耗储备来做到这一点。但这相当不透明,所以我们并不真正知道他们还有多少。

Certainly, in the West, you can see that the reserves have fallen off a cliff, and are at their lowest level in years. We are reaching the end of our ability to draw down those reserves, and so I do think that, if Trump doesn’t actually figure out how to end the war in the next month or so, we are going to see another huge price spike.

当然,在西方,你可以看到储备已经急剧下降,处于多年来的最低水平。我们动用这些储备的能力正接近极限,所以我确实认为,如果特朗普在未来一个月左右的时间里没能真正找到结束战争的办法,我们将看到又一次价格大幅飙升。

If the war ends this month, it seems likely that we will see lower economic growth for the next year or so. We’re also going to see higher inflation. How are you thinking about these impacts?

如果战争本月结束,看起来明年左右的经济增长可能会放缓。我们还会看到更高的通胀。你如何看待这些影响?

So, in this scenario, where it ends quickly and we avoid the worst cases, we will probably lose about half a point of global G.D.P. growth. Global growth was expected to be roughly three per cent, and it will likely fall to around 2.5 per cent. That is something, but that’s nothing like the 2008-09 financial crisis, where the drop was more than one per cent, or COVID, where the drop was more than three per cent, right? It’s a hit, but not a debilitating hit. Clearly, the farming sector, both in the U.S. and globally, is taking a particular hit. And this is because agriculture is affected on both ends. Agriculture is very energy-intensive, and also needs a lot of transportation. Aside from the energy shock, the ag sector is also feeling the fertilizer shock. About a third of the world’s nitrogen-based fertilizer was going through the strait. Fertilizer prices for nitrogen-based fertilizer are up forty to fifty per cent, and others are up at least twenty per cent. So you’re seeing both your transport and your energy costs go up, and your fertilizer costs, too. That pinch is going to manifest in the back half of the year and into 2027, into global commodity-food prices, because one thing that’s happening, especially in the developing world, is that we are seeing less food go into the ground. Look at Southeast Asia, or elsewhere—there’s less rice planting because the economics don’t make sense right now. So you are probably going to see continued higher food prices for six to twelve months or more on the back end of this, because of that decline in planting.

那么,在这种迅速结束、我们避免了最坏情况的情形下,全球GDP增长可能会损失大约半个百分点。全球增长原本预计在百分之三左右,很可能会降到大约百分之二点五。这确实有影响,但完全比不上2008-09年金融危机(当时降幅超过一个百分点)或新冠疫情(降幅超过三个百分点),对吧?这是一次打击,但不是毁灭性的打击。显然,农业部门,无论是美国还是全球,正受到特别严重的冲击。这是因为农业在两端都受到影响。农业是高能耗产业,也需要大量运输。除了能源冲击,农业部门还感受到了化肥冲击。全球大约三分之一的氮基化肥要经过霍尔木兹海峡。氮基化肥的价格上涨了百分之四十到五十,其他化肥也至少上涨了百分之二十。所以你看到的是运输和能源成本在上升,化肥成本也在上升。这种压力将在今年下半年并延续到2027年,体现在全球大宗食品价格上,因为正在发生的一件事是,尤其是在发展中国家,我们看到投入种植的粮食变少了。看看东南亚或其他地方——水稻种植减少了,因为目前的经济账算不过来。因此,由于种植量的下降,在这波冲击的后期,你可能会看到食品价格持续走高六到十二个月,甚至更久。

And then the other thing is inflation, which is running hotter than it was. And I think the odds of reducing interest rates have now gone down. Inflation for April ticked up to 3.8 per cent on an annual basis, which is the highest since early 2023, and nearly twice the Fed’s stated target of two per cent. The reality is that that elevated inflation rate is going to make it harder for the new Fed chair, Kevin Warsh, to cut interest rates the way Trump wants him to, since lowering rates in a higher-inflation environment would probably just make inflation worse.

另一件事是通胀,它比之前更热了。我认为降息的可能性现在已经下降。四月份的通胀率按年率计算升至百分之三点八,这是自2023年初以来的最高水平,几乎是美联储设定的百分之二目标的两倍。现实情况是,这种升高的通胀率将使新任美联储主席凯文·沃什(Kevin Warsh)更难按照特朗普希望的方式降息,因为在通胀较高的环境下降低利率,很可能只会让通胀变得更糟。

We’re also seeing mortgage rates tick up, so, at least for the second half of this year, whether you’re buying a house or a car, or you’re a corporation looking to borrow for your data center, the financing costs are definitely going to remain elevated. That’s going to affect a whole bunch of different industries. It will not be as acute as we’re seeing in the ag sector, which is, I think, really bearing the brunt of this—as well as aviation—but I think the costs will have a tail.

我们也看到抵押贷款利率在上升,所以,至少在今年下半年,无论你是买房还是买车,或者是想为数据中心借款的企业,融资成本肯定会保持在高位。这将影响一系列不同的行业。它不会像我们在农业部门看到的那样剧烈——我认为农业部门确实首当其冲——航空业也一样,但我认为这些成本会有一个长尾效应。

Does the belief that the economic impact will stay with us after the strait is opened also have to do with things that we aren’t totally sure about—for example, damage to energy networks in the region?

认为海峡开放后经济影响仍将持续,是否也与我们不完全确定的事情有关——例如,该地区能源基础设施受到的破坏?

Iran, especially earlier in the war—less so in the last month, when we’ve had these more tit-for-tat strikes—was targeting energy infrastructure. They were targeting pipelines. They were targeting oil fields to some degree, and, because oil has largely not been able to get out of the strait, some of the Middle Eastern producers have had to shut down or slow down production because they don’t have a place to put it anymore. It’s going to take some time for crude oil to come back on. Now, that’s probably a matter of months, or weeks to months, rather than years. And the damage to the crude sector, by all accounts, is not outrageously severe, so, again, I think if we can get the strait open we can get things moving again, and we’re probably not going to see a particularly bad lag on the resumption of crude.

伊朗,尤其是在战争初期——最近一个月少一些,当时我们更多是针锋相对的打击——一直在瞄准能源基础设施。他们瞄准管道,在某种程度上也瞄准油田。而且,由于石油基本上无法运出海峡,一些中东产油国不得不关闭或减缓生产,因为他们没有地方存放石油了。原油生产恢复需要一些时间。不过,那可能是几个月,或者几周到几个月的事,而不是几年。而且,对原油部门的破坏,从各方面来看,并非极其严重,所以,我再次强调,如果我们能重新开放海峡,就能让事情重新运转起来,原油复产大概不会出现特别糟糕的滞后。

I worry more about liquid natural gas. Qatar is a huge L.N.G. producer, and they have had to slow down production. You run these enormously complicated facilities to liquefy it and cool it, and I think resuming that is going to take some time.

我更担心的是液化天然气。卡塔尔是巨大的液化天然气生产国,他们不得不减缓生产。你运营着这些极其复杂的设施来液化和冷却天然气,我认为恢复生产将需要一些时间。

This could have some bad implications for Europe this winter. Europe likes to build up supplies for gas in the summer and fall, when they’re not using as much, and then draw it down over the winter. And, after the Russia-Ukraine war, Europe turned principally to the Middle East for gas, as well as to the U.S, and if the gas can’t get back online Europe could be in trouble, and might have to make a decision about whether they are going to get through a winter with relatively low reserves and just pray it’s not a cold one. Or they are going to have to start thinking about slowing down industrial production to save gas, or get back to maybe buying some more gas from Russia, which they really don’t want to do, for obvious reasons.

这可能给今年冬天的欧洲带来一些糟糕的影响。欧洲喜欢在夏秋季节,用气量不大的时候,建立天然气储备,然后在冬季消耗。而且,在俄乌战争之后,欧洲主要转向中东和美国寻求天然气。如果天然气无法恢复供应,欧洲可能会陷入困境,可能不得不在以下选项中做出抉择:要么靠着相对较低的储备熬过冬天,祈祷别太冷;要么就得开始考虑放缓工业生产以节省天然气,或者重新考虑从俄罗斯多买些天然气,而他们出于显而易见的原因,非常不愿意这么做。

I will say though, that while this has been a disaster, and has not been great for the global economy, if I was going to talk about the one upside—and certainly not one the Trump Administration would appreciate—it would be that, by blundering into this protracted war, Trump is spurring a substantial global impetus to move forward with a green-energy transition.

不过我要说的是,尽管这是一场灾难,对全球经济不利,但如果要说有什么好处的话——当然,这肯定不是特朗普政府会欣赏的——那就是,通过莽撞地陷入这场旷日持久的战争,特朗普正在刺激全球产生一股巨大的动力,去推进绿色能源转型。

What are examples of that?

有什么例子吗?

China’s E.V. exports in April—the most recent month available—jumped forty per cent compared to a year earlier, with sales booming basically everywhere except North America, where tariffs and other restrictions block most Chinese E.V.s. China’s solar exports in April are up sixty per cent over 2025, as countries decide that they are tired of dealing with unpredictable oil and gas prices. You see huge booms in solar and E.V. production in parts of South Asia, Indonesia, Sri Lanka. We in America have felt this energy hit as a price impact, but other countries that were more directly reliant on oil from the Persian Gulf have felt this as a supply impact. You have countries in East Asia and South Asia that have had to tell government offices to move to Zoom a couple days a week because they’re trying to avoid burning gasoline. This war has made cheap Chinese solar and battery and E.V.s look all the more attractive, as a way to just not have to worry as much about your energy bill going forward. In the nineteen-seventies, with the oil shock, you saw the U.S. and Western Europe decide that they needed to have hydrocarbon reserves. They built up the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

中国四月份——这是可获得的最新月份数据——的电动汽车出口量同比跃升了百分之四十,除了北美(关税和其他限制措施阻挡了大多数中国电动汽车),销量几乎在所有地方都蓬勃发展。中国四月份的太阳能产品出口比2025年增长了百分之六十,因为各国决定,他们受够了不可预测的油气价格。你会在南亚部分地区、印度尼西亚、斯里兰卡看到太阳能和电动汽车生产的巨大繁荣。我们美国感受到的这场能源冲击是价格影响,但其他更直接依赖波斯湾石油的国家,感受到的则是供应冲击。东亚和南亚的一些国家不得不要求政府办公室每周有几天改用Zoom办公,因为他们试图避免消耗汽油。这场战争使得廉价的中国太阳能、电池和电动汽车显得更具吸引力,作为一种未来不必那么担心能源账单的方式。在1970年代的石油危机中,你看到美国和西欧决定他们需要碳氢化合物储备。他们建立了战略石油储备。

In the short term, emerging markets are burning more coal, but over the mid- to long term I think there is a growing chance that you see a number of those countries say that they really need to move as quickly as possible to diversify the energy they can produce at home, even if it means buying Chinese equipment.

短期内,新兴市场正在燃烧更多煤炭,但从中长期来看,我认为越来越多的国家可能会说,他们确实需要尽快实现国内可生产能源的多样化,即使这意味着购买中国设备。

But they are using more coal now?

但他们现在确实在用更多煤吗?

Yeah, in the short run, you’ve definitely seen countries fire up coal plants that had not been active, or delay plans to shut them down.

是的,短期内,你肯定能看到一些国家启动了原本闲置的燃煤电厂,或者推迟了关闭它们的计划。

Why has Asia been hit so hard by this crisis? Is it just proximity-based reliance on the Middle East for energy?

为什么亚洲受这场危机打击如此严重?仅仅是因为地理邻近而依赖中东能源吗?

That is mostly it. Obviously South Asia in particular is proximate to the Middle East. Also, a bunch of the economies in South and East Asia tend not to have a ton of hydrocarbon-energy resources of their own. South Korea or Japan, other than nuclear, do not have a lot of indigenous sorts of energy production, and so they are relatively more exposed to energy imports. They both import a larger percentage than North America and parts of Western Europe do, and a higher share of what they import, because of the geography, is coming out of the Middle East.

主要是这个原因。显然,南亚尤其靠近中东。此外,南亚和东亚的许多经济体自身往往没有大量的碳氢化合物能源资源。韩国或日本,除了核能,没有太多本土的能源生产,因此它们相对更容易受到能源进口的影响。它们进口能源的比例比北美和西欧部分地区都高,而且由于地理位置的原因,它们进口的能源中,来自中东的比例也更高。

You mentioned that things could get much worse. What are your biggest concerns if a deal is not reached in the next several weeks? Are there different time frames you are running through in your mind?

你提到情况可能会变得更糟。如果未来几周内无法达成协议,你最担心的是什么?你脑海中是否在推演不同的时间框架?

If you just look at the drawdowns in stockpiles, you can see, as I said, that strategic reserves are at the lowest level in a couple of decades across the aggregate Western private and public reserves. We talked about how it may take time to bring things online. The flip side of that is, there are loaded tankers in the Persian Gulf that are ready to go. So, if you get the strait open, there will actually be some energy coming out reasonably quickly, which then buys time to try to bring some of the production back online.

如果你只看库存的消耗,正如我所说,你可以看到,西方公私部门的总战略储备处于几十年来的最低水平。我们谈到了让生产恢复可能需要时间。另一方面,波斯湾有装好油的油轮,随时准备出发。所以,如果你能开放海峡,实际上会有一些能源相当快地运出来,这就能争取时间,尝试让部分生产恢复。

But, if this doesn’t get resolved in the next month or so, I think you could easily see oil going up forty or fifty dollars a barrel in quite short order, because we’ve drawn through the reserves, and at some point there’s going to have to be that price response. That price shock is then going to carry forward into transportation costs and all the rest, in terms of inflation and higher interest rates. I picture what we have seen over the last couple of months, but doubled, if things don’t change soon. And the knock-on effects will get worse.

但是,如果这事在未来一个月左右得不到解决,我认为你很容易看到油价在相当短的时间内每桶上涨四十或五十美元,因为我们已经耗尽了储备,到了某个时点,必然会出现那种价格反应。然后,这种价格冲击将传导到运输成本和其他所有方面,体现在通胀和更高的利率上。我想象的是,如果情况不尽快改变,我们过去几个月所看到的影响会翻倍。连锁反应会变得更糟。

Although, on one level, this has maybe been less catastrophic than we thought it could be, I’m trying to keep in mind the fact that people in places like Somalia are having trouble feeding their families because of this war.

尽管在某种程度上,这可能没有我们想的那么灾难性,但我努力提醒自己一个事实:像索马里这样的地方,人们正因为这场战争而难以养家糊口。

Yeah, that’s something that I think is important. It is easy for me, sitting here on the East Coast, at a university, to complain about the fact that gas prices are a little bit higher, and that interest rates are a little bit higher. But if you’re already living on two dollars a day and your food price goes up by twenty per cent, or your fertilizer price for your back-yard garden goes up by twenty per cent, that means real trade-offs. There are more than one billion people around the world who are living in that situation, and they feel this much more directly than I think, frankly, most of us. I don’t mean to minimize what we clearly do feel in the United States, but we actually have not borne the brunt of this the way some folks have. ♦

是的,我认为这一点很重要。我坐在东海岸的一所大学里,很容易抱怨油价有点高,利率有点高。但如果你每天已经只靠两美元生活,而你的食品价格上涨了百分之二十,或者你后院菜园的化肥价格上涨了百分之二十,那就意味着实实在在的艰难取舍。全球有超过十亿人生活在那种境况中,坦率地说,他们比我们大多数人更直接地感受到这一切。我无意淡化我们在美国确实感受到的影响,但我们实际上并没有像某些人那样承受这场战争最沉重的打击。 ♦

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