The Lede

Democratic Schadenfreude and the Latino Vote

民主党的幸灾乐祸与拉丁裔选票
Trump’s once strong approval rating among Latinos has collapsed, but Democrats can’t count on their support.
特朗普在拉丁裔选民中一度高涨的支持率已经崩塌,但民主党人不能指望他们的支持。
A person holding a sign in that says “Si se puede votemos.”
Photograph by Anna Watts / The Washington Post / Getty

After close to half of Latino voters chose Donald Trump in 2024, Democrats reacted like someone catching their grandpa giving money to a chatbot. “A lot of folks are asking on the Democratic side, ‘Why would they do this to themselves?’ ” the CNN anchor Jim Acosta said. He asked whether Latinos had “just had the wool pulled over their eyes.” Online, the reaction got ugly. Some posters (who claimed to be Kamala Harris voters) shared the tip-line number for ICE, encouraging their followers to call and report undocumented family members of Latinos who had voted for Trump. Those posts represented an angry fringe; however, even among levelheaded Democrats, I heard some species of vindictiveness. They understood why Latinos, buffeted by years of inflation and rising housing costs, had rejected Joe Biden. But they felt these voters would—and should—pay for supporting Trump.

2024年,近半数拉丁裔选民选择了唐纳德·特朗普,民主党人的反应就像看到自家爷爷给聊天机器人送钱一样。“很多民主党这边的人都在问,‘他们为什么要这样对自己?’”CNN主播吉姆·阿科斯塔(Jim Acosta)说。他问拉丁裔选民是不是“被人蒙蔽了双眼”。网上的反应变得很难看。一些发帖者(自称是卡玛拉·哈里斯(Kamala Harris)的支持者)分享了移民与海关执法局(ICE)的举报热线,鼓动粉丝打电话举报那些投票给特朗普的拉丁裔选民的无证家人。这些帖子代表了一群愤怒的极端分子;然而,即便在头脑冷静的民主党人中间,我也听到某种幸灾乐祸的腔调。他们理解拉丁裔选民在多年通胀和住房成本飙升的冲击下,拒绝了乔·拜登(Joe Biden)。但他们觉得,这些选民会——也应该——为支持特朗普付出代价。

For anyone who felt that way in 2024, reading polling conducted during the past year must’ve been a deeply gratifying experience. As ICE agents laid siege to Minneapolis and gas prices shot up after bombs began falling on Iran, numerous surveys showed Trump hemorrhaging support among Latino voters. A recent NBC News poll found that sixty-four per cent of Latinos disapproved of the job Trump was doing. Equis, a polling firm established to study Latino communities, has found that a third of all Latinos who supported the President in 2024 now feel “disappointed,” or outright regret their vote. The leading reason for this disappointment, according to Equis, was “Trump’s broken promises and lies.”

对于2024年有这种想法的人来说,阅读过去一年的民调数据想必是一种极大的满足。随着ICE特工围攻明尼阿波利斯,以及炸弹开始落在伊朗后油价飙升,大量调查显示特朗普在拉丁裔选民中的支持率急剧流失。NBC新闻最近的一项民调发现,64%的拉丁裔不认可特朗普的工作表现。专门研究拉丁裔社区的民调公司Equis发现,2024年支持总统的拉丁裔中,有三分之一现在感到“失望”,或者干脆后悔投了那一票。据Equis称,这种失望的首要原因是“特朗普背弃承诺和撒谎”。

Tony Pérez is an evangelical pastor in Reading, Pennsylvania, a city whose population is about seventy per cent Latino. He’s one of the many residents whose vote helped Trump win the swing state in 2024. A few weeks before that year’s election, Pérez, a warm and goateed man in his early sixties, welcomed me into a church he founded in town. As we walked through the nave, he pointed up at the national flags he had hung along the walls and rafters to represent the immigrants in his congregation. I saw the colors of Mexico, Cuba, the Dominican Republic, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Chile, Guatemala, Colombia, Puerto Rico, and more. Trump was popular among the congregants, Pérez said, mainly because of their belief that he could turn around the economy. People around town had felt richer in 2019 than they ever did under Biden. But for the pastor there was also a moral dimension to supporting Trump: Pérez crusades against gender-affirming care for minors, and he considers the President an ally in that fight.

托尼·佩雷斯(Tony Pérez)是宾夕法尼亚州雷丁市的一位福音派牧师,该市人口约70%是拉丁裔。他是众多帮助特朗普在2024年赢得这个摇摆州的居民之一。那年大选前几周,六十出头、留着山羊胡、待人热情的佩雷斯,欢迎我来到他在镇上创办的一座教堂。我们穿过中殿时,他指着沿墙壁和椽子悬挂的各国国旗,这些旗帜代表着他会众中的移民。我看到了墨西哥、古巴、多米尼加共和国、尼加拉瓜、委内瑞拉、智利、危地马拉、哥伦比亚、波多黎各等国的颜色。佩雷斯说,特朗普在会众中很受欢迎,主要是因为他们相信他能扭转经济。镇上的人在2019年感觉比拜登执政时期任何时候都更富裕。但对这位牧师来说,支持特朗普还有一个道德维度:佩雷斯大力反对针对未成年人的性别肯定照护,他认为总统是这场斗争中的盟友。

I caught up with Pérez by phone recently. He told me that, during the past two years, he’s seen pain and fear among the immigrants in his pews as Trump expands mass deportation. “I think most Hispanics here think there needs to be some kind of pathway for people. The rhetoric comes across as a little harsh, and some people are disappointed by that. I am disappointed by that,” Pérez said. After ICE showed up at a bodega in Reading, Pérez got a call from one of his congregants who lived a town over. The man told him that he no longer wanted to risk the drive to church. “It breaks my heart,” Pérez said. Even for those unafraid of ICE, a long drive to church has grown more unpleasant because of high gas prices. “People did feel that he would handle the economy better,” he said.

我最近通过电话联系上了佩雷斯。他告诉我,过去两年里,随着特朗普扩大大规模驱逐出境,他看到坐在长椅上的移民们感到痛苦和恐惧。“我认为这里的大多数西语裔都认为,需要为人们提供某种入籍途径。那种言辞听起来有点刺耳,一些人对此感到失望。我也对此感到失望,”佩雷斯说。ICE出现在雷丁市一家杂货店后,佩雷斯接到了一位住在邻镇会众的电话。那人告诉他,他不想再冒险开车来教堂了。“这让我心碎,”佩雷斯说。即使对那些不害怕ICE的人来说,由于高油价,长途开车去教堂也变得更加令人不快。“人们确实觉得他能更好地处理经济问题,”他说。

As we talked, Pérez imagined what he’d do if he walked into a polling booth today and looked down at a ballot with Trump and Harris on it. He wouldn’t hesitate: he’d vote for Trump again. I asked Pérez to think about all the Trump voters he knew who told him that they were anxious or disappointed. Would they make the same decision? “If Kamala and Trump ran again, most of these people would vote for Trump again, in spite of the immigration thing,” he said. “You hold your nose and do it, because you have to.”

在我们交谈时,佩雷斯想象着,如果他现在走进投票站,低头看到一张印有特朗普和哈里斯的选票,他会怎么做。他不会犹豫:他会再次投票给特朗普。我问佩雷斯,想想他认识的所有那些告诉他感到焦虑或失望的特朗普支持者。他们会做出同样的决定吗?“如果卡玛拉和特朗普再次竞选,这些人中的大多数还是会投票给特朗普,尽管有移民这档子事,”他说。“你捏着鼻子也得投,因为你不得不这么做。”

Surveys back up what Pérez is saying about his views and those of his congregation. In Equis’s polling, just eleven per cent of Latinos who voted for Trump in 2024 said that they would now support a Democrat. That’s hardly a sea change. “We’ve seen pretty tepid favorability ratings for the Democratic Party,” María Ísabel Di Franco Quiñonez, a senior research director for Equis, said. The poll numbers are “primarily driven by rejection of the Trump Administration, not enthusiasm about the Democratic Party or the Democratic brand.” In them, you don’t see a group of prodigal Latinos making their way back to Democrats; instead, you see a group of voters wandering into a political wilderness. “They’re de-aligning, not realigning—it’s, like, we can be against both of you,” Mike Madrid, a former Republican campaign manager and now an anti-Trump conservative strategist, told me.

调查数据印证了佩雷斯关于他自己及其会众观点的说法。在Equis的民调中,2024年投票给特朗普的拉丁裔中,只有11%的人表示现在会支持民主党人。这根本算不上什么巨变。“我们看到民主党支持率相当低迷,”Equis的高级研究总监玛丽亚·伊莎贝尔·迪弗兰科·基尼奥内斯(María Ísabel Di Franco Quiñonez)说。这些民调数字“主要是由对特朗普政府的排斥所驱动,而不是对民主党或其品牌的热忱”。在这些数据中,你看不到一群回头的浪子正在重返民主党怀抱;相反,你看到的是一群正在步入政治荒野的选民。“他们是在脱离阵营,而不是重新站队——就像是,我们可以同时反对你们两方,”前共和党竞选经理、现为反特朗普的保守派策略师迈克·马德里(Mike Madrid)告诉我。

In Madrid’s eyes, both major parties, by trying to organize and mobilize Latinos as an ethnic group, neglect the degree to which class determines how they vote. Communities as distinct as Mexicans and Peruvians are overrepresented in blue-collar professions compared with non-Latino Americans. Latinos are also, on average, much younger than the general population, as a result of collapsing birth rates among white Americans. This puts many into the under-forty generation who are trying to buy their first house and find some financial stability. Those voters had a brutal four years under Biden. Even as blue-collar wages increased, housing prices in most parts of the country exploded, keeping many Latinos who had been saving up locked out of the market.

在马德里看来,两大政党都试图将拉丁裔作为一个族裔群体来组织和动员,却忽视了阶级在多大程度上决定了他们的投票倾向。与非拉丁裔美国人相比,墨西哥人和秘鲁人等截然不同的社群在蓝领职业中的比例过高。此外,由于美国白人的出生率急剧下降,拉丁裔的平均年龄远低于总人口。这使得许多人属于四十岁以下、正试图购买第一套住房并寻求经济稳定的一代。这些选民在拜登执政下度过了艰难的四年。即使蓝领工资上涨,全国大部分地区的房价却飙升,让许多一直在储蓄的拉丁裔被挡在市场之外。

When I talked with Pérez this month, he blamed Democrats for a more than fifty-per-cent increase in housing prices in Pennsylvania over the past six years. (Housing costs have, of course, increased all over the country. Data from the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis show that, between 2020 and 2024, in deep-red South Carolina, they were up sixty-five per cent; in Tennessee, they were up sixty-six per cent.) Now Pérez is seeing Democrats, such as Representative Chrissy Houlahan, whose U.S. House district includes Reading, unveil “affordability” messaging. He isn’t buying it. “I heard this quote, ‘It’s like an arsonist becoming a fireman,’ ” he said. “They would love to run on affordability, but when gas was four bucks and Biden was in office, you didn’t hear them complain.”

本月我与佩雷斯交谈时,他将宾夕法尼亚州过去六年房价上涨超过50%归咎于民主党人。(当然,全国各地的住房成本都在上涨。圣路易斯联邦储备银行的数据显示,2020年至2024年间,在深红的南卡罗来纳州,房价上涨了65%;在田纳西州,上涨了66%。)现在,佩雷斯看到民主党人,比如其国会选区包括雷丁市的众议员克丽茜·霍拉汉(Chrissy Houlahan),推出了“可负担性”的宣传信息。他并不买账。“我听过这么一句话,‘这就像纵火犯当上了消防员’,”他说。“他们很想在可负担性上做文章,但当油价四美元、拜登在任时,你听不到他们抱怨。”

At the same time, Latinos’ dismay with Trump is profound enough that it has stunned pollsters. In 2025, Di Franco Quiñonez, the senior research director at Equis, and a colleague personally interviewed Latino Trump supporters. They returned to talk with the interviewees multiple times throughout the year as part of an ongoing ethnographic study that Equis called Beyond the Ballot.

与此同时,拉丁裔对特朗普的失望程度之深,令民调专家都感到震惊。2025年,Equis的高级研究总监迪弗兰科·基尼奥内斯和一位同事亲自采访了支持特朗普的拉丁裔选民。作为Equis一项名为“选票之外”的持续民族志研究的一部分,他们在这一年中多次回访受访者。

“We really wanted to understand what their journey of the first year of the Administration would look like,” Di Franco Quiñonez said. “I think it would be difficult for any of us to have predicted the level of disappointment and the level of rejection of the Administration that we have heard.”

“我们真的想了解,他们在特朗普政府第一年的心路历程会是什么样子,”迪弗兰科·基尼奥内斯说。“我想,我们任何人都很难预料到我们所听到的这种程度的失望和对政府的排斥。”

One of the participants, a Cornell grad whom Equis called Juan, worked as a government contractor in Phoenix, Arizona. Juan voted for Biden in 2020 before defecting to Trump in 2024. He told Di Franco Quiñonez and her team that, though he identified with Democrats’ message of inclusion, in particular for immigrants, he found Biden’s economy untenable. He saw Trump as a leader who would take control and bring down costs. After the attempted assassination of Trump in July, 2024, “he was putting his fists up, like, ‘Let’s fight, let’s fight, I have more fight in me,’ ” Juan told the Equis team. “I was, like, I have to commend this man for the amount of vigor and strength.”

其中一位参与者是康奈尔大学的毕业生,Equis称他为胡安(Juan),在亚利桑那州凤凰城做政府承包商。胡安在2020年投票给拜登,之后在2024年倒戈支持特朗普。他告诉迪弗兰科·基尼奥内斯及其团队,尽管他认同民主党人关于包容的信息,尤其是对移民的包容,但他觉得拜登的经济难以为继。他将特朗普视为一个能掌控局面并降低成本的领导者。在2024年7月特朗普遭遇未遂暗杀后,“他举起拳头,像是在说,‘战斗吧,战斗吧,我还有更多斗志’,”胡安对Equis团队说。“我当时想,我必须为这个人的活力和力量点赞。”

In December of 2025, Equis interviewed Juan again. “I got rate hikes on my apartment utility bills—electricity bill, water bill,” he said. He saw health-insurance premiums go up when the Affordable Care Act got cut back. Juan’s mother had lived without insurance before Obamacare, and Juan saw those days returning. “The sickest people who need insurance, their rates are for sure going to go up very high,” he said. Juan said that he was leaning toward supporting Democrats in the midterms, but he hadn’t made up his mind. “Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer are very unwilling to support certain candidates within their own party who aren’t perfect,” he said.

2025年12月,Equis再次采访了胡安。“我的公寓水电费——电费、水费——都涨了,”他说。他看到《平价医疗法案》被削减后,健康保险保费上涨了。胡安的母亲在奥巴马医改之前一直没有保险,胡安看到那些日子正在回来。“那些最需要保险的病人,他们的费率肯定会涨得很高,”他说。胡安表示,他倾向于在中期选举中支持民主党人,但还没有下定决心。“哈基姆·杰弗里斯(Hakeem Jeffries)和查克·舒默(Chuck Schumer)非常不愿意支持自己党内某些不够完美的候选人,”他说。

During Equis’s interviews with voters, one conversation that stayed with Di Franco Quiñonez was with Lorena, a woman in Colorado Springs, Colorado. Lorena is a Mexican immigrant, with multiple undocumented family members, and yet she told Di Franco Quiñonez that she supported Trump specifically because of his immigration policy. Lorena’s husband was undocumented when the two got married, and to get legal status, he was forced to leave the country for ten years. After all their sacrifice, Lorena told Di Franco Quiñonez and her colleagues that she was furious at what she perceived to be the Biden Administration’s permissiveness toward undocumented immigrants. (Biden allowed more than five hundred thousand vetted new arrivals from certain countries to enter on humanitarian parole.)

在Equis对选民的采访中,让迪弗兰科·基尼奥内斯印象深刻的是一次与洛雷娜(Lorena)的对话,她是科罗拉多州科罗拉多斯普林斯的一名女性。洛雷娜是墨西哥移民,有多名无证家人,然而她告诉迪弗兰科·基尼奥内斯,她支持特朗普,恰恰是因为他的移民政策。洛雷娜和丈夫结婚时,丈夫是无证移民,为了获得合法身份,他被迫离开美国十年。在经历了所有这些牺牲之后,洛雷娜告诉迪弗兰科·基尼奥内斯及其同事,她对拜登政府在她看来对无证移民的纵容感到愤怒。(拜登允许超过50万来自特定国家、经过审查的新入境者以人道主义假释身份进入美国。)

Di Franco Quiñonez’s team went on to interview Lorena five times in the second half of 2025. In those later conversations, “the distress was visible,” Di Franco Quiñonez said. Lorena told them about panic in Colorado Springs, as police and ICE activity increased and several of her neighbors got deported. She’d expected ICE to go after criminals and recent arrivals, not her neighbors and loved ones. Yet that December, when one of Di Franco Quiñonez’s colleagues asked Lorena whom she’d vote for, she said that she didn’t trust either party. “Honestly, I don’t know if I’m going to end up going to vote,” she said.

迪弗兰科·基尼奥内斯的团队在2025年下半年又对洛雷娜进行了五次采访。在那些后来的对话中,“那种痛苦是肉眼可见的,”迪弗兰科·基尼奥内斯说。洛雷娜向他们讲述了科罗拉多斯普林斯的恐慌,随着警察和ICE活动增加,她的几个邻居被驱逐出境。她原本以为ICE会针对罪犯和新近入境者,而不是她的邻居和亲人。然而那年12月,当迪弗兰科·基尼奥内斯的一位同事问洛雷娜会投票给谁时,她说她两个党都不信任。“老实说,我不知道我最终会不会去投票,”她说。

“Trump was handed this historic opportunity to remake the Latino electorate and has squandered it at every turn,” Carlos Odio, a co-founder of Equis, told me. In 2024, Trump exploited many Latinos’ sense that they had been cut in line. Odio used Biden’s sending funding to Ukraine and Israel as an example. “There was a feeling of ‘other people are being prioritized ahead of me,’ ” Odio said. Then Trump took office and spent billions on dubious foreign adventures in Venezuela, the Caribbean, and Iran. “He’s acting like a man with a political death wish,” Odio said.

“特朗普被赋予了重塑拉丁裔选民群体的历史性机遇,却在每一个关头都挥霍掉了,”Equis的联合创始人卡洛斯·奥迪奥(Carlos Odio)告诉我。2024年,特朗普利用了许多拉丁裔感觉自己被人插队的感觉。奥迪奥以拜登向乌克兰和以色列提供资金为例。“有一种‘别人正被优先考虑,而不是我’的感觉,”奥迪奥说。然后特朗普上台,在委内瑞拉、加勒比海地区和伊朗的冒险行动上花费了数十亿美元,这些行动动机可疑。“他的所作所为就像一个在政治上求死的人,”奥迪奥说。

“The challenge for Democrats,” Odio continued, “is the Biden years just happened yesterday.” He cautioned that, though the party is “looking better now by comparison, there still is a lot of trust to rebuild.” Odio also warned that Democrats have to abandon any sense of superiority to Latinos who voted for Trump. “It is about welcoming back defectors and not holding people’s vote against them as a moral failing,” he said.

“民主党面临的挑战是,”奥迪奥继续说,“拜登执政的岁月仿佛就在昨天。”他提醒说,尽管该党“相比之下现在看起来好一些,但仍有大量信任需要重建”。奥迪奥还警告说,民主党人必须摒弃对投票给特朗普的拉丁裔选民的那种优越感。“关键在于欢迎背离者回归,而不是把人们的投票选择当作道德污点来加以指责,”他说。

Chuck Rocha, a campaign strategist for multiple Democratic campaigns, said that he’s told his clients to drop the “abstract talk” about affordability and get specific. “I’ve been having my candidates talk about the actual effects on individuals,” Rocha said. He’s run ads featuring voters describing their struggles, in which the candidate only appears at the end. “The key is it’s not the politician; it’s a fucking person telling the story.”

曾为多个民主党竞选活动担任策略师的查克·罗查(Chuck Rocha)说,他已经告诉自己的客户,要放弃关于可负担性的“抽象空谈”,要具体化。“我一直让我的候选人谈论对个人的实际影响,”罗查说。他投放的广告以选民讲述自身困境为主,候选人只在结尾才出现。“关键在于,不是政客在说,而是一个活生生的人在讲述自己的故事。”

Based on all he’s seen, Rocha is confident that Democrats across the country have a real advantage with Latinos this November. “I can tell you that now, without a shadow of a doubt,” he said. “I’m working on too many races. Every Latino race in America we’re involved in, the numbers are lining up.” That makes him more nervous about 2028. “What scares me to death is that we’re going to do well with these Latino voters in the midterm, and then think we’ve got it all figured out for the Presidential year,” Rocha said. “It is just a whole different electorate.” Democrats still have plenty of time to squander their advantage. ♦

基于他所看到的一切,罗查确信,今年11月,全国各地的民主党人在争取拉丁裔选民方面拥有真正的优势。“我现在可以毫无疑问地告诉你这一点,”他说。“我参与的竞选太多了。我们参与的每一场全美范围内的拉丁裔竞选,数据都在向好。”这让他对2028年更加紧张。“让我怕得要死的是,我们会在中期选举中赢得这些拉丁裔选民的支持,然后就以为总统大选年也万事大吉了,”罗查说。“那完全是另一批选民。”民主党人仍有大把时间来挥霍他们的优势。♦

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