This Week in Fiction

Andrea Bajani on the Institution of Family

安德烈亚·巴亚尼谈家庭制度
The author discusses his story “Constellation.”
作者谈他的短篇小说《星座》。
A photo of Andrea Bajani in blue. The background has some cursive writing on a green background.
Illustration by The New Yorker; Source photograph by Adolfo Frediani

Your story in this week’s issue, “Constellation,” is drawn from your novel “L’anniversario” (“The Anniversary”), which won the prestigious Premio Strega in 2025. It’s told from the perspective of a man who, ten years after cutting off his parents, reflects on their lives and on his upbringing. How did the idea for the story come to you?

你本周刊出的短篇《星座》,节选自你荣获2025年意大利斯特雷加文学奖的小说《周年》(L'anniversario)。故事从一位男子的视角展开,他在与父母断绝关系十年后,重新审视他们的生活与自己的成长经历。这个故事的灵感从何而来?

It came to me while I was teaching, evidence that it’s not always the teacher who shows the students the path to a story; often it’s the other way around. In this case, the real spark was a course called Writing the Family, which I’ve taught at Rice University several times, and whose subject fosters a particular intensity in the classroom. Family, as a theme, brings with it two elements that raise the temperature of any story: politics, and our most primordial emotions, which is pretty much everything that interests me in literature. The first time I taught the class, one thing struck me most of all: the students’ stories were full of pain, and suffering within the family was perceived as an inescapable fate. They seemed to me like Minotaurs imprisoned in their labyrinths, convinced not only that they were monsters but that trying to get out—or even merely imagining doing so—was a crime, despite the violence in their narratives. One day, out of pure instinct, and because I always like doing the assignments I give my students, I began writing a story that was the exact opposite: a man decides to find the exit and leave, to escape from the labyrinth of a painful family, simply because he feels he has the right to do so.

灵感是在我教书时来的,这恰好证明,并不总是老师给学生指明通往故事的路,往往恰恰相反。这一次,真正的火花来自一门叫“书写家庭”的课,我在莱斯大学教过好几次,这门课的主题总能让课堂气氛格外浓烈。家庭这个主题,自带两个能让任何故事升温的元素:政治,以及我们最原始的情感——这几乎就是我在文学中感兴趣的全部。第一次教这门课时,有一件事让我印象最深:学生们的作品里满是痛苦,家庭内部的苦难被他们视为一种无法逃脱的宿命。在我眼里,他们就像被囚禁在各自迷宫里的米诺陶洛斯,不仅深信自己是怪物,还认定试图逃出去——哪怕只是想象一下——都是一种罪过,尽管他们的叙事中充满了暴力。有一天,纯粹出于直觉,也因为我总喜欢做自己布置给学生的作业,我开始写一个截然相反的故事:一个男人决定找到出口,离开,逃离那个痛苦家庭的迷宫,仅仅因为他觉得自己有这个权利。

Familial estrangement, as you’ve noted in the past, is often considered a taboo subject. Did this affect your writing process?

你过去曾指出,家庭疏离往往被视为禁忌话题。这影响你的写作过程了吗?

I do think it’s taboo generally, and even more so in a society like Italy’s, where family comes far before country, and the laws of the family before those of the country. All of which is to say, blood ties supersede an individual’s rights. The taboo is calling into question what a society instills in its people—all of its people—without their even noticing. We are taught to “honor thy father and thy mother,” to think of being someone’s child as a debt to be paid off in the course of our life, regardless of our lived experience within the family. The taboo requires building filial relationships on guilt rather than on rights, and it forbids any questioning of the family institution. I believe that literature’s mission is to pry open taboos, to contest narratives imposed by whatever power. This can’t help but shape the process of writing, which demands an added force, even an added fury, because contesting official power—which burrows into us—requires a certain recklessness. And so the writing of the story happened like a fever. The first draft of the novel took twenty days. Over the next three years, I wrote twenty-two versions, trying to make every sentence say what it needed to—without relish, without showiness, and, above all, without passing judgment on my characters.

我确实认为这普遍是个禁忌,在意大利这样的社会尤其如此,在那里,家庭远在国家之上,家法也远在国法之上。这一切无非是说,血缘纽带凌驾于个人权利之上。这个禁忌在于,它质疑了一个社会在人们——所有人——浑然不觉中灌输给他们的东西。我们被教导要“孝敬父母”,被教导身为子女是一笔要用一生去偿还的债,无论我们在家庭中的实际经历如何。这个禁忌要求将亲子关系建立在负罪感而非权利之上,并禁止对家庭制度提出任何质疑。我相信文学的使命就是撬开禁忌,去抗衡任何权力所强加的叙事。这不可能不影响写作过程,它需要一股额外的力量,甚至是一种额外的愤怒,因为抗衡那种深植于我们体内的官方权力,需要某种不计后果的劲头。于是,这篇故事的写作就像一场高烧。小说的初稿花了二十天。在接下来的三年里,我写了二十二个版本,努力让每一句话都说出它必须说的话——不沾沾自喜,不炫技,最重要的是,不对我的人物做任何评判。

The narrator seems to have no remorse about having severed ties with his family. Indeed, he describes the decade that followed as “the best ten years” of his life. Why, then, do you think he decides to commemorate this anniversary, as it were, by revisiting the past, especially the painful episode of domestic violence on which “Constellation” centers?

叙述者似乎对与家人断绝关系毫无悔意。他甚至把此后的十年描述为他生命中“最好的十年”。那么,你觉得他为什么决定纪念这个“周年”,通过重访过去,尤其是《星座》所聚焦的那段痛苦的家庭暴力往事?

Remorse has a moral slant, therefore it exists entirely within taboo. There’s a crucial passage in the novel where, in the course of a few lines, the narrator switches from the verb “abandon” to the verb “retreat.” “Can one abandon one’s parents?” he asks himself. He then refines the question: “Can one retreat from them?” That verbal shift is like a Copernican revolution. It marks the point where the protagonist essentially moves from submission to a taboo to assertion of a right. From the guilt that freezes him in a permanent state of expiation, to the claiming of something simple: the right to feel safe. We act as though it’s scandalous to treat familial bonds like other bonds, as things that one can break if one so chooses, particularly if they put one in danger. That’s why the theme of violence, both psychological and physical, is central to the novel, precisely because for so long—and unfortunately still today—violence hasn’t been considered sufficient reason to bring an end to the dominion of the male, founded on force and on the subordination of women. And that’s why I consider “The Anniversary” a deeply political book; cauterizing empathy toward victims of violence in order to shore up an institution—in this story, the institution of a certain kind of patriarchal family—is a political choice in service of a particular social project.

悔恨带有道德倾向,因此它完全存在于禁忌之内。小说里有一个关键段落,在短短几行字里,叙述者从动词“抛弃”切换到了动词“撤离”。“一个人能抛弃自己的父母吗?”他问自己。然后他修正了这个问题:“一个人能从他们身边撤离吗?”这个动词的转换就像一场哥白尼式的革命。它标志着主角本质上从屈从于禁忌,转向了对一项权利的伸张。从将他冻结在永恒赎罪状态中的负罪感,转向了对一件简单事情的索求:感到安全的权利。我们表现得好像把家庭纽带视同其他纽带——如果一个人选择,就可以斩断,尤其是当这些纽带将人置于危险之中时——是件可耻的事。这就是为什么心理和身体上的暴力主题是小说的核心,恰恰因为长久以来——不幸的是至今依然如此——暴力一直不被认为是足以终结男性统治的充分理由,这种统治建立在武力和对女性的从属之上。这也是为什么我认为《周年》是一本极具政治性的书;为了维护一种制度——在这个故事里,是某种父权家庭的制度——而封堵对暴力受害者的共情,这是一种服务于特定社会规划的政治选择。

“It’s still not clear to me whether my father ever actually hit my mother,” the narrator prefaces, before recounting the night he came home to find police officers in his parents’ apartment, his mother covered in blood. The details he goes on to provide seem to clearly indicate that his father did strike his mother. What accounts for the narrator’s lingering doubts?

“我至今仍不清楚父亲是否真的打过母亲,”叙述者在讲述那晚他回到家,发现警察在父母公寓里、母亲浑身是血之前,先做了这样的铺垫。他随后提供的细节似乎清楚地表明,父亲确实打了母亲。叙述者挥之不去的疑虑该如何解释?

I think you’ve touched on one of the novel’s central points, though it’s not so much about doubt itself. The narrator, not having witnessed the incident, still clings to doubt, but for the reader the matter is clear: the episode is the culmination of a longer, subtler violence that goes back years, and was normalized by the members of that family and by an entire society. The blood in the mother’s hair is evidence of a personal and political violence that the narrator calls into question. But this is the beginning of that calling, the first crack. Those lingering doubts you mention might also be seen as a last vestige of credulity, of fear. The fact that the narrator is a man is important. His telling of the story is the result of his refusal, as a man, of his patriarchal inheritance. He rejects the father’s narrative, which renders the mother not only subordinate but invisible. In doing so, though, the narrator realizes that he had believed his father’s narrative for so long that he knows nothing about his own mother and now has to invent her. It’s why he places her at the center of his story.

我想你触及了小说的一个核心要点,尽管它与其说是关于疑虑本身。叙述者没有亲眼目睹事件,仍然紧抓着疑虑不放,但对读者来说,事情是清楚的:这个事件是更漫长、更隐微的暴力的顶点,这种暴力可以追溯到多年前,并被那个家庭的成员以及整个社会所正常化。母亲头发里的血迹,是叙述者所质疑的一种个人与政治暴力的证据。但这只是质疑的开始,是第一道裂缝。你提到的那些挥之不去的疑虑,或许也可以被看作轻信与恐惧的最后一丝残余。叙述者是男性这一点很重要。他对故事的讲述,是他作为一个男人,拒绝接受父权遗产的结果。他拒斥了父亲的叙事,那种叙事不仅让母亲处于从属地位,更让她变得不可见。然而,在这样做的时候,叙述者意识到,他相信父亲的叙事太久了,以至于对自己的母亲一无所知,现在不得不去虚构她。这就是为什么他把她放在了自己故事的中心。

The narrator struggles to make sense of the, at times, shifting power dynamic between his parents, framing their behavior as adhering to a “script.” Do you think we all play a particular role within our families, dysfunctional or otherwise?

叙述者努力理解父母之间时而变动的权力关系,将他们的行为框定为遵循某种“剧本”。你认为我们每个人在家庭中,无论功能失调与否,都扮演着特定的角色吗?

I’m interested in the novel as a machine, and in what Milan Kundera called the “wisdom of uncertainty,” which is precisely what literature, at its best, produces. By freeing us from dogma, it also necessarily consigns us to uncertainty. To your question, I want to answer on two levels. The first is the sociological, or political, one: when an individual enters a family—or any other institution—they tend to settle into dominant cultural models. It’s a way of simplifying, of resolving complexity, like buying from IKEA: you follow the instructions. From this follow both the political dimension and a certain form of ignorance as to the source of so much unhappiness—and not only on the family front. The second level is that of the novel, whose task is to plumb the depths of the human condition. For me, writing means trying to get close enough to each character to feel their heart beating, which challenges the first level, because human beings are much more complex and contradictory than sociological simplifications. They follow the “instructions,” in part, but they are also inhabited by ghosts, by memories, by the need for love. It makes writing a marvellous adventure in knowledge.

我对小说作为一部机器感兴趣,也对米兰·昆德拉所说的“不确定性的智慧”感兴趣,这恰恰是文学在最佳状态下所产生的东西。通过将我们从教条中解放出来,它也必然将我们交付给不确定性。对于你的问题,我想从两个层面来回答。第一个是社会学的,或者说政治的层面:当个体进入一个家庭——或任何其他制度——时,他们往往会融入主导的文化模式。这是一种简化、解决复杂性的方式,就像在宜家买东西:你照着说明书来。由此而来的,既有政治的维度,也有对如此多不幸——不仅限于家庭方面——的根源的某种无知。第二个层面是小说的层面,其任务是探究人类处境的深处。对我来说,写作意味着努力靠近每一个人物,直到能感受到他们的心跳,这对第一个层面构成了挑战,因为人类远比社会学的简化要复杂和矛盾得多。他们部分地遵循“说明书”,但他们也被幽灵、记忆和对爱的需求所占据。这让写作成为一场奇妙的认知冒险。

The story is framed as one that the narrator himself is writing, and throughout it, he intimates that he’s not being entirely faithful to fact: “It’s just a retrospective wish, another invention.” Why does he go to pains to qualify his memories? And should we trust his narrative more or less as a result?

这个故事被设定为叙述者本人正在写的故事,在整篇中,他暗示自己并非完全忠于事实:“这只是一个事后的愿望,又一个虚构。”他为什么要费力去限定自己的记忆?我们因此应该更相信还是更不相信他的叙述?

One thing that has always fascinated me is the coexistence of two beliefs: that our personality—what makes us who we are—is formed in the earliest years of life, and that we retain hardly any memory of what happened to us in those years. It suggests that we remain a mystery to ourselves throughout our lives. I like to think that art is the little probe we send to look around in the black box, though always with the knowledge that what it reveals may be pure invention. The narrator is caught up in a process of rewriting every story he has inherited, including the version of himself that he has invented over the years. Uncertainty is his territory, and it is also the territory of his painful but necessary rebirth.

有一件事一直让我着迷:两种信念的共存——我们的个性,即造就我们之所以是我们的东西,是在生命的最初几年形成的,而我们对自己在那几年里经历过什么几乎毫无记忆。这意味着我们终其一生对自己都是一个谜。我喜欢把艺术想象成我们派去探索黑匣子内部的小探头,尽管我们始终知道,它所揭示的可能是纯粹的虚构。叙述者正处在一个重写他所继承的每一个故事的过程中,包括他多年来虚构出的那个版本的自己。不确定性是他的领地,也是他痛苦但必要的重生的领地。

“The Anniversary” comes out, in English, on August 25th. What has it been like to revisit the story in another language?

《周年》的英文版将于8月25日出版。用另一种语言重新审视这个故事是什么感觉?

Receiving Geoffrey Brock’s translation of the novel was a true revelation. Not only because of its superlative quality, but for an even more profound reason: when I read it, I thought, This—in English, in the English of a poet—is the actual novel I wanted to write but, for language reasons, couldn’t. I had to write it in Italian, but it was as though I had thought it in English. Geoff’s version seemed to me the original, not a translation. And this epiphany led to another important realization: that I had written this novel—in Houston, where I live—with American readers partly in mind. This means that I had instinctively been trying to draw out of this “Italian story” something more universal, something that, while it certainly concerns my country, might also, in some measure, concern anyone else. ♦

收到杰弗里·布洛克翻译的小说,是一次真正的启示。不仅因为其卓越超群的品质,更因为一个更深层的原因:当我读它时,我想,这就是——用英语,用一位诗人的英语写成的——我真正想写却因语言原因而无法写出的那本小说。我不得不用意大利语写它,但就好像我是用英语构思的。杰夫的译本在我看来才是原作,而非翻译。这个顿悟引向了另一个重要的认识:我写这部小说时——在我居住的休斯顿——心中部分是想着美国读者的。这意味着我一直在本能地试图从这个“意大利故事”中提炼出某种更普世的东西,某种虽然肯定关乎我的国家,但在某种程度上也可能关乎任何人的东西。 ♦

(Bajani’s responses were translated, from the Italian, by Geoffrey Brock.)

(巴亚尼的回答由杰弗里·布洛克从意大利语译成英文。)

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