Persons of Interest

A Philosopher of War Changes His Mind

一位战争哲学家改变了他的想法
Michael Walzer wrote “Just and Unjust Wars” half a century ago. The war in Gaza made him rethink one of its fundamental principles.
迈克尔·沃尔泽在半个世纪前写下了《正义与非正义战争》。加沙战争让他重新思考了其中一个基本原则。
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I first met Michael Walzer about a decade ago. I was a nobody graduate student from Catalonia, finishing my dissertation. Walzer was a professor emeritus at the Institute for Advanced Study, in Princeton, and the former co-editor of the left-wing magazine Dissent, but he was most interesting to me as a philosopher—and, especially, as the author of “Just and Unjust Wars,” an attempt to delineate the rights and wrongs of warfare in both its causes and its conduct. In the nearly fifty years since it was published, no other book on the subject has matched its influence. I e-mailed him out of the blue, eager to discuss its ideas, and he invited me to his office. We talked about philosophy and politics on a walk in some nearby woods.

我第一次见到迈克尔·沃尔泽(Michael Walzer)大约是在十年前。我当时是个从加泰罗尼亚来的无名研究生,正在完成博士论文。沃尔泽是普林斯顿高等研究院的荣休教授,也是左翼杂志《异议》(Dissent)的前联合主编,但对我来说,他最吸引人的身份是哲学家——尤其是《正义与非正义战争》的作者,这本书试图从战争的原因和作战方式两个层面界定战争的对与错。该书出版近五十年来,没有其他同类著作能与之比肩。我冒昧地给他发了封邮件,急切地想讨论书中的观点,他邀请我去他的办公室。我们在附近的树林里散步,聊了哲学和政治。

I returned to his work several years later, when a publisher wrote to me about another of his books, “Thick and Thin: Moral Argument at Home and Abroad,” which I had praised in a talk. They had acquired the rights to publish it in Catalan and asked me to write a prologue. I said yes, but found that I also wanted to write about Walzer’s career and his legacy. I wrote to him again, this time as a journalist, proposing a profile. Early in 2023, he invited me to his apartment, in New York, where he had just moved with his wife of nearly seventy years, Judy Borodovko Walzer—like him, a retired academic. In May of that year, Walzer and I sat in their kitchen and talked amid boxes waiting to be unpacked and paintings waiting to be hung.

几年后,我又回到了他的作品。当时一家出版社写信给我,提到他的另一本书《厚与薄:国内外的道德论证》,我在一次演讲中称赞过这本书。他们买下了加泰罗尼亚语版权,请我写一篇序言。我答应了,但发现自己也想写写沃尔泽的学术生涯和遗产。我再次给他写信,这次是以记者身份,提议写一篇人物特写。2023年初,他邀请我去他在纽约的公寓,他和结婚近七十年的妻子朱迪·博罗多夫科·沃尔泽(Judy Borodovko Walzer)刚搬过去——她和他一样,也是一位退休学者。那年五月,沃尔泽和我坐在他们家的厨房里,周围是等待拆封的箱子和等待挂上墙的画。

He had recently turned eighty-eight. Walzer has a gentlemanly demeanor and a sense of irony that makes him difficult to pin down; he dislikes abstraction and hypotheticals, and prefers to speak and write without jargon. He learned to read, in the early nineteen-forties, from the left-leaning afternoon paper PM, he told me, which, he added, “had the best maps” of the Second World War. He remembers his grandmother rejoicing at the Soviet victory in the Battle of Stalingrad. His parents, the children of Jewish immigrants, were living in the Bronx, where his father worked in a defense factory. Later, Walzer’s father got a job, through his in-laws, at a jewelry store in Johnstown, Pennsylvania, where the family joined a Reform congregation. The rabbi was a Zionist, and Walzer shared a memory—though he wasn’t sure if it was accurate—of his parents weeping with joy listening to the news that the United Nations had voted in support of creating a Jewish state in what was then the British mandate for Palestine. In Johnstown, Walzer went to a consolidated high school, with kids from the well-to-do borough of Westmont and from the working-class township of Upper Yoder. After graduation, “half the boys” went to college, he said, and half went to fight in Korea. “It was a lesson in the class system,” he told me. He went to college at Brandeis, then did a Ph.D. at Harvard.

他刚过完八十八岁生日。沃尔泽举止彬彬有礼,带着一种让人难以捉摸的反讽感;他不喜欢抽象概念和假设情境,偏好不用行话说话和写作。他告诉我,他在四十年代初从一份左倾的下午报《PM》学会阅读,他还补充说,那份报纸“有二战最好的地图”。他记得祖母为苏联在斯大林格勒战役中的胜利而欢呼。他的父母是犹太移民的子女,住在布朗克斯,父亲在一家国防工厂工作。后来,沃尔泽的父亲通过姻亲关系在宾夕法尼亚州约翰斯敦的一家珠宝店找到了工作,全家加入了当地的一个改革派犹太会堂。拉比是犹太复国主义者,沃尔泽分享了一段记忆——尽管他不确定是否准确——他的父母听到联合国投票支持在当时英国托管的巴勒斯坦建立犹太国家的消息时,喜极而泣。在约翰斯敦,沃尔泽上了一所合并高中,同学中有来自富裕的韦斯特蒙特区的孩子,也有来自工薪阶层上约德镇的孩子。毕业后,“一半的男孩”上了大学,他说,另一半去了朝鲜打仗。“这是关于阶级制度的一课,”他告诉我。他先上了布兰代斯大学,然后在哈佛读了博士。

After Korea came Vietnam. When the United States sent combat troops, in 1965, Walzer was teaching political theory at Princeton, where he helped organize one of the first teach-ins against the war. The following year, he returned to Harvard, and, in 1967, he became the co-chair of the Cambridge Neighborhood Committee on Vietnam, whose members went door to door collecting signatures for a referendum opposing the war. In June, Israel launched a preëmptive strike against Egypt, setting off the Six-Day War, and proceeded to occupy the Sinai Peninsula, the Golan Heights, the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip. Many of Walzer’s anti-Vietnam allies opposed all of this, but he thought that Israel’s initial attack was justified; in his view, the country faced an imminent threat and needed to act. Seeking to explain why this was right, and why the war in Vietnam was not, he turned to the mostly Catholic tradition of just-war theory, and began work on what became his most famous book.

朝鲜战争之后是越南战争。1965年美国派遣作战部队时,沃尔泽正在普林斯顿教政治理论,他帮助组织了最早的反战宣讲会之一。次年,他回到哈佛,1967年成为剑桥越南问题邻里委员会的联合主席,委员会成员挨家挨户收集签名,支持一项反战公投。那年六月,以色列对埃及发动先发制人的打击,引发了六日战争,随后占领了西奈半岛、戈兰高地、约旦河西岸、东耶路撒冷和加沙地带。沃尔泽的许多反越战友友反对这一切,但他认为以色列最初的攻击是正当的;在他看来,这个国家面临迫在眉睫的威胁,必须采取行动。为了解释为什么这是对的,而越南战争不是,他转向了主要源自天主教传统的正义战争理论,开始写作后来成为他最著名著作的那本书。

The book’s fundamental precepts are not complicated. It is just to defend your country from an invasion and it is unjust to invade a country that has not attacked you—although Walzer does allow for exceptions, mostly for humanitarian causes. It is just to assume certain risks to avoid civilian casualties and it is unjust to bomb towns indiscriminately to compel an enemy to surrender. The justice of going to war—what philosophers call jus ad bellum—is separate from jus in bello, the justice of how a war is fought. Soldiers on either side of a war have the same rights and the same obligations, regardless of which side is more broadly in the right.

这本书的基本原则并不复杂。保卫自己的国家免受入侵是正义的,入侵一个没有攻击你的国家是非正义的——尽管沃尔泽确实允许例外,主要是出于人道主义原因。承担一定风险以避免平民伤亡是正义的,不分青红皂白地轰炸城镇以迫使敌人投降是非正义的。开战的正义性——哲学家称之为“诉诸战争权”(jus ad bellum)——与“战时法”(jus in bello),即作战方式的正义性,是分开的。战争双方的士兵拥有相同的权利和相同的义务,无论哪一方在更广泛的意义上更占理。

Most of these precepts were already commonplace in international law, but they were often ignored in practice, and it was becoming conventional wisdom in some intellectual and political circles that war was a matter of naked self-interest. In this regard, many realists and pacifists were united: neither side believed that a war could be fought morally. In the book, Walzer draws on history as well as philosophy, quoting letters and memoirs from soldiers alongside speeches by politicians and by military leaders, illustrating how people attempt to fight in a moral fashion, and revealing that they usually make imperfect and uncomfortable decisions. Shortly after the book’s publication, a group of officers at West Point adopted it as a textbook, making it required reading for second-year cadets. It is still taught at military schools.

这些原则大多在国际法中早已是常识,但在实践中常常被忽视,而且在一些知识界和政治圈子里,战争不过是赤裸裸的自我利益之争,这种看法正逐渐成为共识。在这一点上,许多现实主义者和和平主义者是一致的:双方都不相信战争可以以道德的方式进行。在书中,沃尔泽既引用历史也引用哲学,引用了士兵的书信和回忆录,也引用了政治家和军事领导人的演讲,展示了人们如何试图以道德的方式作战,并揭示出他们通常做出的是不完美且令人不安的决定。该书出版后不久,西点军校的一批军官将其采用为教材,列为二年级学员的必读书目。至今它仍在军事院校中被教授。

At the kitchen table, that May, we talked about the war in Ukraine, which was then a little more than a year old. It was, by Walzer’s lights, a morally straightforward war: Russia had invaded unjustly and Ukraine was defending itself. But war is never simple. “You know there’s now a version of just-war theory called jus ex bello?” he asked me. “Jus ex bello means ‘When is it just, or obligatory, to stop fighting.’ ” Just then his wife arrived, carrying shopping bags, and we paused to help put things away. Returning to the table, Walzer said that a legal scholar had recently used the jus ex bello doctrine in an op-ed to argue that the war had become so costly to Ukrainians that their government was now obliged to make concessions to stop the fighting. This was wrong, Walzer insisted—such a principle would encourage aggressors to be as destructive as possible.

那年五月,在厨房餐桌旁,我们谈到了乌克兰战争,当时战争刚过一周年。在沃尔泽看来,这是一场道德上直截了当的战争:俄罗斯不义地入侵,乌克兰在自卫。但战争从来都不简单。“你知道现在有一种正义战争理论的版本叫‘退出战争权’(jus ex bello)吗?”他问我。“退出战争权的意思是‘什么时候停止战斗是正义的,或者是义务性的’。”就在这时,他的妻子提着购物袋进来了,我们停下来帮忙把东西放好。回到桌边,沃尔泽说,一位法律学者最近在一篇评论文章中运用了退出战争权学说,论证这场战争对乌克兰人来说代价已经如此之大,以至于他们的政府现在有义务做出让步以停止战斗。这是错误的,沃尔泽坚持认为——这样的原则会鼓励侵略者尽可能具有破坏性。

In the months that followed, we exchanged e-mails and spoke over Zoom. Walzer wrote multiple pieces about the war in Ukraine, and I asked him about those writings as well as those from his past. That September, I drafted my article. On October 7th, Hamas attacked Israel and Israel retaliated. I asked Walzer for another interview. “Yes,” he replied. “We need to talk.”

在接下来的几个月里,我们互通邮件,通过Zoom交谈。沃尔泽写了多篇关于乌克兰战争的文章,我问他这些文章以及他过去的作品。那年九月,我起草了我的文章。10月7日,哈马斯袭击了以色列,以色列进行了报复。我请求沃尔泽再做一次采访。“好的,”他回复道。“我们需要谈谈。”

We spoke again a few days later, over Zoom. Walzer wore thick glasses, and his hair was dishevelled; he offered a polite but fading smile. In the seventies, Walzer and his wife began making annual visits to Israel; by now, they had as many friends there as they did in the U.S. I asked him about an article he’d written years before titled “The Four Wars of Israel/Palestine.” He argued then that though some Israelis were justly defending their security within the country’s 1967 borders, others were unjustly fighting for a Greater Israel that included settlements and occupied territories. And though some Palestinians were justly fighting to end the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza and to create an independent state, others were waging an unjust war to destroy Israel altogether. Peace would only come, he wrote, when those fighting the just wars defeated those, on their own side, fighting the unjust ones.

几天后,我们通过Zoom再次交谈。沃尔泽戴着厚厚的眼镜,头发凌乱;他露出一个礼貌但逐渐消退的微笑。七十年代,沃尔泽和妻子开始每年访问以色列;到如今,他们在以色列的朋友和在美国的一样多。我问他多年前写的一篇文章,题为《以色列/巴勒斯坦的四场战争》。他当时论证说,尽管一些以色列人在1967年边界内正当地捍卫自己的安全,但另一些人却在为包括定居点和被占领土在内的“大以色列”进行非正义的战斗。尽管一些巴勒斯坦人在为结束对约旦河西岸和加沙的占领、建立独立国家而正当地战斗,但另一些人却在发动一场彻底摧毁以色列的非正义战争。他写道,只有当那些打正义战争的人击败了自己一方打非正义战争的人,和平才会到来。

Did he still see it this way? Yes, he said. And, unfortunately, he added, those fighting the just wars had not been running things on either side. Israel, he said, now had “to find a way to respond to the Hamas attack.” He went on, “It’s a principle of just-war theory that when there is a just cause, there has to be a way of responding.” Did the initial response by the Israeli government constitute a war crime? “I think a prolonged siege of Gaza, yes, is unjust,” he said. Judaism’s greatest philosopher would agree, he noted. “Maimonides wrote, memorably, one of my favorite sentences: ‘When one surrounds a city to lay siege to it, it is prohibited to surround it from four sides; only three sides are permissible.’ You have to allow civilians to leave. Well, Gaza is besieged on all sides.” Then he added, somewhat coldly, “It’s also stupid, because people will start dying, and it’s not Hamas that will be blamed for their deaths.”

他还这样看吗?是的,他说。而且,不幸的是,他补充道,打正义战争的人在双方都没有掌权。他说,以色列现在必须“找到一种回应哈马斯袭击的方式”。他接着说:“正义战争理论的一个原则是,当存在正义的事业时,必须有回应的方式。”以色列政府最初的回应是否构成战争罪?“我认为对加沙的长期围困,是的,是非正义的,”他说。他指出,犹太教最伟大的哲学家也会同意。“迈蒙尼德写过一句令人难忘的话,是我最喜欢的句子之一:‘当一个人包围一座城要围攻它时,禁止从四面围困;只允许围三面。’你必须允许平民离开。可是,加沙被四面围困。”然后他补充道,语气有些冷淡:“这也很愚蠢,因为人们会开始死亡,而被指责的不会是哈马斯。”

I went to see him in person a few weeks later. It was Halloween and, in the streets, people were dressed as monsters and pumpkins. I found Walzer in the hall of his building, and we went up to his apartment together. He was moving more slowly than he had in May; he’d been experiencing back problems. At his door, I noticed a mezuzah. He has long been secular, and I asked him why he’d put it up. “So the antisemites know which door to knock on,” he said.

几周后我去当面见他。那天是万圣节,街上人们打扮成怪物和南瓜。我在他住的大楼门厅找到了沃尔泽,我们一起上楼去他的公寓。他比五月时行动更慢了;他一直有背痛的问题。在他家门口,我注意到一个门柱经卷(mezuzah)。他长期以来一直是世俗主义者,我问他为什么挂这个。“好让反犹主义者知道该敲哪扇门,”他说。

We took seats in a tiny corner of the apartment. A copy of the left-wing magazine Jacobin sat on a desk. Walzer looked less anxious than he had just after the attack, and he seemed sharper; I could tell that he’d discussed the subjects I was raising many times. “Every dead civilian is a human tragedy and a political asset for Hamas,” he said. “So, I assume, if there are any smart Israelis left, they are trying to minimize civilian casualties. But how committed they are to that I just don’t know.”

我们在公寓的一个小角落里坐下。桌上放着一本左翼杂志《雅各宾》。沃尔泽看起来没有袭击刚发生后那么焦虑了,而且似乎思维更敏锐了;我能感觉到他已经多次讨论过我提出的这些话题。“每一个死去的平民都是一场人类悲剧,也是哈马斯的政治资产,”他说。“所以,我猜想,如果以色列还剩什么聪明人的话,他们正在努力减少平民伤亡。但他们对此有多投入,我真的不知道。”

Walzer believed that Israel’s war was just but that the Army was waging it, at times, unjustly. Still, he rejected the idea of a ceasefire. If Israel accepted one, he said, “Hamas will claim victory and Israelis will live in fear.” He hoped that an Israeli victory would lead to the creation of two separate states, though he acknowledged that neither Hamas nor the Israeli government seemed to want this. Eventually, he said, there would be a different government in Israel, and he believed that there could be public pressure for such a solution. To my surprise, he was also open to the idea of a confederation, “which would be something less than sovereignty for each side.” When I noted that this was a development in his thinking, he said, “I just want to see some movement away from where we are.”

沃尔泽认为以色列的战争是正义的,但军队在某些时候的作战方式是非正义的。尽管如此,他拒绝停火的想法。如果以色列接受停火,他说,“哈马斯会宣称胜利,以色列人将生活在恐惧中。”他希望以色列的胜利能促成两个独立国家的建立,尽管他承认哈马斯和以色列政府似乎都不想要这个结果。他说,最终以色列会有一个不同的政府,他相信可能会有公众压力推动这样的解决方案。令我惊讶的是,他也对邦联制的想法持开放态度,“那将是比双方各自拥有主权更弱一些的安排。”当我指出这是他思想上的一个发展时,他说:“我只是想看到从我们目前的处境有所移动。”

In 1988, Walzer wrote that terrorism might only be justified “if the oppression to which the terrorists claimed to be responding was genocidal in character.” I mentioned this idea in the context of Hamas’s attack. “That’s certainly not Hamas’s circumstance, because if they give up the project of annihilating Israel, and the border opens, investment comes in,” he said. “It may not be what they want, but the prospect of genocide isn’t there.” I noted that the most extreme members of Netanyahu’s Cabinet had been implying that erasing Gaza’s entire population was not out of the question. Walzer acknowledged that some people in the Israeli government “probably hope for something like that.” But the war cabinet included people with different views, he said. Perhaps there was a steadier hand on the Israeli response.

1988年,沃尔泽写道,恐怖主义只有在“恐怖分子声称所回应的压迫具有种族灭绝性质”时才可能被正当化。我在哈马斯袭击的背景下提到了这个观点。“那当然不是哈马斯所处的境况,因为如果他们放弃消灭以色列的计划,边境开放,投资就会进来,”他说。“那可能不是他们想要的,但种族灭绝的前景并不存在。”我指出,内塔尼亚胡内阁中最极端的成员一直在暗示,抹去加沙全部人口并非不可能。沃尔泽承认,以色列政府中的一些人“可能希望发生那样的事”。但战时内阁中也有持不同观点的人,他说。也许以色列的回应有更稳健的手在掌控。

The following January, Walzer was scheduled to give a talk in Barcelona, near my home, to discuss “Thick and Thin,” which had now been published in Catalan. The book argues that our “thin” values of universalism and international solidarity grow out of the “thick” values that we learn in the communities we are born into; the thin values then help us to overcome the violence that can arise when we clash with other people’s thicknesses, so to speak. I was asked to be his interlocutor at the event, which was held in a four-hundred-seat basement hall beneath the historic Pati de les Dones at Barcelona’s Centre de Cultura Contemporània. Walzer’s back was still bothering him, and so he joined remotely, on a giant screen that loomed over the audience. It felt as though we were speaking in a bomb shelter.

次年一月,沃尔泽计划在巴塞罗那——离我家很近——做一场演讲,讨论《厚与薄》,这本书现在已经出版了加泰罗尼亚语版。该书论证说,我们的“薄”价值——普遍主义和国际团结——是从我们在出生所在的社群中学到的“厚”价值中生长出来的;然后,薄价值帮助我们克服当我们与其他人的厚价值发生冲突时可能产生的暴力,可以这么说。我被邀请在活动中担任他的对话者,活动在巴塞罗那当代文化中心历史悠久的“妇女庭院”地下一个可容纳四百人的大厅举行。沃尔泽的背还在困扰他,所以他通过远程方式参加,出现在一块悬在观众上方的巨大屏幕上。感觉就像我们是在一个防空洞里讲话。

Freedom and self-determination, Walzer said early on in the conversation, are universal values, and the task is to coexist with the differences they produce. Then, as if reading the room—which was packed with college students, progressive intellectuals, and the kind of engaged citizens who worry about the world and feel at home with someone who speaks in subordinate clauses—he interrupted himself, mid-reflection. “I have defended wars of humanitarian intervention because they are enforcing the universal value of life,” he said. “And I have opposed wars for regime change, which are motivated by some conception, some understanding of our own way of life, which we believe should be your way of life.”

自由和自决,沃尔泽在对话开始时说,是普遍价值,任务是与它们所产生的差异共存。然后,仿佛在察言观色——房间里挤满了大学生、进步知识分子,以及那种关心世界、对说话带从句的人感到亲切的积极参与的公民——他在反思中途打断了自己。“我捍卫过人道主义干预战争,因为它们是在执行生命的普遍价值,”他说。“我也反对过政权更迭战争,那些战争是由某种观念、某种对我们自己生活方式的理解所驱动的,我们认为那也应该是你们的生活方式。”

The conversation continued for another half hour, drawing closer and closer to the war in Gaza until I asked him about it directly. Some things that seemed unjust, in his view, were not. Hamas, he said, had “a kind of military embeddedness in the civilian population” that “makes it virtually impossible to fight at all without killing civilians, and maybe even without killing large numbers of civilians.” Israeli officials had said that one-third of the Palestinian casualties were Hamas fighters, he noted. “If that’s true—if the ratio is two to one—given the crowdedness of Gaza and given the embeddedness of Hamas, I think that’s a respectable ratio,” he said. Some in the audience gasped. Then we took questions. A young man said he was offended by what Walzer had said about Gaza and that he would never read any of his books. Someone else asked him if the “thickness” of his Jewish upbringing thwarted his ability to see the “thin” injustice of the war. Walzer said he had been “a very strong opponent of some of Israel’s wars in the past,” but “not, as it turns out, of this one.”

对话又持续了半个小时,越来越接近加沙战争,直到我直接问他。在他看来,有些事情看似非正义,其实不是。他说,哈马斯“在平民中有一种军事嵌入性”,这“使得不杀害平民——甚至可能不杀害大量平民——几乎不可能作战”。他指出,以色列官员曾说巴勒斯坦伤亡者中有三分之一是哈马斯战斗人员。“如果那是真的——如果比例是二比一——考虑到加沙的拥挤程度和哈马斯的嵌入性,我认为那是一个可接受的比例,”他说。观众中有人倒吸一口气。然后我们开始接受提问。一个年轻人说,沃尔泽关于加沙的言论冒犯了他,他永远不会读他的任何书。另一个人问他,他犹太成长背景的“厚度”是否阻碍了他看到这场战争中“薄”的非正义。沃尔泽说,他过去“一直是以色列某些战争的非常强烈的反对者”,但“结果证明,不是这场”。

There is a special difficulty in applying just-war theory to wars between a powerful military and an insurgent group. It’s a problem that “Just and Unjust Wars” does not address at length and that Walzer has thought about a great deal since. Two months after the event in Barcelona, he delivered a lecture on the topic at West Point, focussed on the war in Gaza. He has visited West Point multiple times since “Just and Unjust Wars” was published, and he said that the officers who taught there had told him that they “felt a special closeness with the IDF—the army, they said, most like ours.” In the lecture, he described the conflict as an “unprecedented” asymmetric war. “I don’t believe that there has ever been a war fought against an underground city,” he said, referring to the network of tunnels in Gaza. Hamas, he argued, had designed the fighting above ground “to produce civilian casualties.” The United States, he added, had sent Israel two-thousand-pound bombs, “not right for urban warfare,” to crush Hamas’s tunnels: “So we are complicit in the damage they did up above and in the civilian deaths they caused.” In May, he gave a longer version of the lecture, over Zoom, to the Minerva Center for Human Rights, in Jerusalem. There, Walzer noted that the powerful armies generally do most of the killing in these asymmetrical wars, but that such conflicts are also political matters, and that the more powerful side often loses. “The French in Algeria, the French lost,” he said. “The Americans in Vietnam and Afghanistan: we clearly lost. And in Iraq: we didn’t win. The Israelis in Lebanon and, a number of times before October 7th, in Gaza: too many cases of not winning.”

将正义战争理论应用于强大军队与叛乱组织之间的战争,有一个特殊的困难。这是《正义与非正义战争》没有详细讨论的问题,也是沃尔泽此后思考了很多的问题。巴塞罗那活动两个月后,他在西点军校就这一主题做了一场讲座,聚焦于加沙战争。自《正义与非正义战争》出版以来,他多次访问西点军校,他说那里的教官告诉他,他们“对以色列国防军有一种特殊的亲近感——他们说,那支军队最像我们的军队。”在讲座中,他将这场冲突描述为一场“史无前例的”不对称战争。“我不相信历史上曾经有过针对一座地下城市的战争,”他说,指的是加沙的隧道网络。他论证说,哈马斯设计了地面上的战斗,“目的是制造平民伤亡”。他还说,美国向以色列运送了两千磅的炸弹,“不适合城市战”,用来摧毁哈马斯的隧道:“所以我们对它们在地面上造成的破坏和平民死亡负有共谋责任。”五月,他通过Zoom向耶路撒冷的密涅瓦人权中心做了一个更长的讲座版本。在那里,沃尔泽指出,在这些不对称战争中,强大的军队通常造成大部分杀戮,但这类冲突也是政治问题,更强大的一方往往失败。“法国人在阿尔及利亚,法国人输了,”他说。“美国人在越南和阿富汗:我们显然输了。在伊拉克:我们没有赢。以色列人在黎巴嫩,以及在10月7日之前的加沙多次行动中:太多没有赢的案例。”

I asked Walzer about this the next time we spoke, over Zoom. If Hamas’s strategy had made it impossible for Israel to win the war without killing even more civilians than they already were—and if, in that case, Israel could not win the war at all, on account of public outrage and political pressure—wouldn’t the just thing be to stop fighting? Walzer told me that he had heard that argument from people on the Israeli left, and that, of course, it was important to prepare for negotiations and to hope for a diplomatic solution. But he regarded Israel’s situation as precarious. Israel could not have avoided this war, he said.

下次我们通过Zoom交谈时,我问了沃尔泽这个问题。如果哈马斯的战略使得以色列不可能在不杀害比现在更多平民的情况下赢得战争——而且,如果在这种情况下,由于公众愤怒和政治压力,以色列根本无法赢得战争——那么正义的做法难道不是停止战斗吗?沃尔泽告诉我,他从以色列左翼人士那里听到过这个论点,当然,为谈判做准备、希望外交解决是很重要的。但他认为以色列的处境是危险的。以色列不可能避免这场战争,他说。

I thought of an article he had written years before, with the Israeli philosopher Avishai Margalit, titled “Israel: Civilians & Combatants” and published first in Haaretz and later in The New York Review of Books. “This is the guideline we advocate: Conduct your war in the presence of noncombatants on the other side with the same care as if your citizens were the noncombatants,” they wrote. Had Walzer changed his mind on this? No, he said. Then he posed a hypothetical involving a house partly occupied by Hamas, with rockets stored in the basement and civilians on other floors. “Let’s imagine the civilians in different floors were Israelis,” he said. What should Israel do about this? “I think that is the right way to ask the question,” he went on. “I am not sure what the answer is. I suspect the answer is, you bomb the apartment.”

我想起他多年前与以色列哲学家阿维沙伊·马加利特(Avishai Margalit)合写的一篇文章,题为《以色列:平民与战斗人员》,先发表在《国土报》上,后来发表在《纽约书评》上。“这是我们倡导的准则:在对方有非战斗人员在场的情况下进行你的战争,要像你的公民就是那些非战斗人员一样小心,”他们写道。沃尔泽改变主意了吗?没有,他说。然后他提出了一个假设情境:一栋楼的一部分被哈马斯占据,地下室存放着火箭弹,其他楼层有平民。“让我们想象一下,不同楼层的平民是以色列人,”他说。以色列应该怎么做?“我认为这是提出这个问题的正确方式,”他继续说。“我不确定答案是什么。我怀疑答案是,你炸掉那套公寓。”

That September, thousands of pagers and walkie-talkies, booby-trapped with explosives by Israeli operatives, were detonated in Lebanon and Syria, killing dozens, among them two children, and maiming or injuring thousands. Walzer wrote an essay for the Times calling the explosions “terrorist attacks” and “very likely war crimes.” The column constituted his harshest criticism of Israel to date, a fact he acknowledged the next time we spoke, a few months later. He had come to agree with the former Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon, whose statements made him think of the conflict as two wars: a legitimate defense against Hamas’s attack and an unjust war of ethnic cleansing in northern Gaza. (The Israeli military denied Ya’alon’s accusation of ethnic cleansing, insisting that it acted “in accordance with international law.”) Walzer confessed, too, that he was beginning to wonder whether a war might be waged so wantonly that the justness of its cause is undermined. “I’ve always tried to keep those two judgments separate,” he said. “But I’ve been challenged by a number of people.”

那年九月,数千台寻呼机和对讲机——被以色列特工安装了爆炸装置——在黎巴嫩和叙利亚被引爆,造成数十人死亡,其中包括两名儿童,数千人致残或受伤。沃尔泽为《泰晤士报》写了一篇文章,称这些爆炸是“恐怖袭击”和“极有可能的战争罪”。这篇专栏构成了他迄今为止对以色列最严厉的批评,这一事实他在几个月后我们再次交谈时也承认了。他开始同意以色列前国防部长摩西·亚阿隆(Moshe Ya'alon)的观点,后者的言论让他把这场冲突看作两场战争:一场是对哈马斯袭击的正当防卫,另一场是在加沙北部进行的非正义的种族清洗战争。(以色列军方否认了亚阿隆的种族清洗指控,坚称其行动“符合国际法”。)沃尔泽也坦承,他开始怀疑,一场战争是否可能被如此肆意地进行,以至于其事业的正义性被削弱。“我一直试图把这两个判断分开,”他说。“但我受到了很多人的质疑。”

It was January, 2025. The departing Biden Administration had brokered a ceasefire that allowed for the release of hostages taken by Hamas in exchange for Palestinian prisoners; the ceasefire held until March 18th, when Israel launched a surprise attack, with the approval of the Trump Administration, claiming that Hamas was not negotiating in good faith to release the remaining hostages. In one of the deadliest days of the war, the Israeli military killed more than four hundred people—mostly women and children, according to the Hamas-led Gaza Health Ministry. The next day, Israeli troops began a ground operation in territory that the Israeli Defense Forces had withdrawn from weeks earlier.

那是2025年1月。即将离任的拜登政府促成了一项停火协议,允许释放哈马斯扣押的人质,以换取巴勒斯坦囚犯;停火一直维持到3月18日,以色列在特朗普政府批准下发动了突然袭击,声称哈马斯没有就释放剩余人质进行真诚谈判。在这场战争中最致命的日子之一,以色列军方杀死了四百多人——据哈马斯领导的加沙卫生部称,其中大多数是妇女和儿童。第二天,以色列军队在以色列国防军几周前撤出的地区开始了地面行动。

Walzer had just turned ninety years old. The Van Leer Jerusalem Institute and the Israel Academy of Sciences and Humanities organized a conference in his honor, to be held that June, and invited him to give a talk. He told me that he would speak about “Just and Unjust Wars” and the war in Gaza, but that he didn’t know what he would say. In May, Israel expanded its offensive in Gaza. In June, Israel bombed Iran, and Iran retaliated. The conference was postponed to the fall.

沃尔泽刚满九十岁。范利尔耶路撒冷研究所和以色列科学与人文学院组织了一场以他为主题的学术会议,定于六月举行,并邀请他做演讲。他告诉我,他会讲《正义与非正义战争》和加沙战争,但他不知道他会说什么。五月,以色列扩大了在加沙的攻势。六月,以色列轰炸了伊朗,伊朗进行了报复。会议被推迟到秋天。

In October, I called Walzer again, and we discussed a so-called peace plan that had been announced by Trump, which included international administration for Gaza. Its terms were not far from Biden’s, but Walzer was not optimistic. Trump, he said, “wants to be seen signing an important document that he can wave in front of the Nobel Prize committee next year.” It was plain to him now that the Israeli government intended to occupy Gaza the way it has occupied the West Bank. “So I could say the war became unjust when it became clear that the end of the Israeli government was unjust,” he mused. Then he paused. “I don’t want to take that as a way out. I do think that the commitment to the siege was an act that was clearly unjust by in bello terms—and I think it required an opposition to the war itself, not just to the conduct of the war.” He offered a wry smile. “I’m not sure, at age ninety, that I’m going to rewrite the theory. But if I write on this issue, I’ll have to express that anxiety—that gross misconduct, war crimes, could reach a point where we are obligated to oppose the war itself.”

十月,我再次打电话给沃尔泽,我们讨论了特朗普宣布的一项所谓和平计划,其中包括对加沙的国际管理。其条款与拜登的方案相差不远,但沃尔泽并不乐观。他说,特朗普“想被看到签署一份重要文件,明年可以在诺贝尔奖委员会面前挥舞。”现在对他来说很清楚的是,以色列政府打算像占领约旦河西岸那样占领加沙。“所以我可以说,当以色列政府的目的变得明显非正义时,这场战争就变得非正义了,”他沉思道。然后他停顿了一下。“我不想把这当作一条出路。我确实认为,对围困的坚持是一个从战时法角度看明显非正义的行为——我认为这要求对战争本身的反对,而不仅仅是对战争行为的反对。”他露出一个苦笑。“我不确定,在九十岁的年纪,我会不会重写这个理论。但如果我写这个问题,我将不得不表达那种焦虑——严重的失当行为、战争罪,可能达到一个临界点,使我们有义务反对战争本身。”

A month later, I flew to Israel to attend the conference. It was my first visit to the country since the war began. On the streets of Jerusalem I saw hip-looking young Israelis carrying assault rifles, some of them with military packs, presumably coming and going from their conscription duties. On the columns of train stations, stickers bore the smiling faces of soldiers in their twenties alongside motivational quotes and the dates of their births and deaths.

一个月后,我飞到以色列参加会议。这是战争开始以来我第一次访问这个国家。在耶路撒冷的街头,我看到穿着时髦的年轻以色列人背着突击步枪,有些人带着军用背包,大概是往返于兵役任务之间。在火车站的柱子上,贴纸上是二十多岁士兵的笑脸,旁边是励志语录和他们的生卒日期。

The evening of Walzer’s talk felt unusually warm. The lecture hall was packed; I took a seat in the back row. I’d spent the day listening to commentary on his work, much of it laudatory but some of it quite critical. The starkest assessment was delivered by Khaled Furani, a professor of anthropology, who called Walzer’s work a “lullaby” and a “chatty” narrative designed to soothe the Israeli conscience while masking the reality of Palestinian suffering. Furani deemed the current state of affairs a natural consequence of Zionist nationalism, and invited Walzer to flee the sinking ship of Zionism and board the ark of Islam and Palestinian liberation.

沃尔泽演讲的那个晚上异常温暖。报告厅座无虚席;我在后排找了个座位。我花了一整天听关于他作品的评论,其中大多是赞扬,但也有一些相当尖锐的批评。最严厉的评价来自人类学教授哈立德·富拉尼(Khaled Furani),他称沃尔泽的作品是一首“摇篮曲”和一个“絮絮叨叨”的叙事,旨在安抚以色列的良心,同时掩盖巴勒斯坦人苦难的现实。富拉尼认为当前的事态是犹太复国主义民族主义的自然结果,并邀请沃尔泽逃离犹太复国主义这艘正在下沉的船,登上伊斯兰和巴勒斯坦解放的方舟。

When Walzer took the stage, he affirmed his commitment to the safety of Israel and described his fury at the attacks of October 7th before turning to Israel’s conduct in the war. The recent raids in Gaza, he said, seemed intended to make it “uninhabitable, at least by its present inhabitants.” He added that “Israel had managed the siege in a way that meant, and seemed from far away intended to mean, that there would be no end to the suffering, no sustained relief, until a final, a total, victory, a victory that was never morally possible, probably not strategically possible, and that no one really believed in.” What’s more, “once there was a political way to defeat Hamas and to free the hostages, the war became unjust. The effort to win it, when there was no way to win without destroying Gaza and driving out all or most of its people” was, he said, a “criminal effort.”

当沃尔泽走上讲台时,他确认了自己对以色列安全的承诺,描述了他对10月7日袭击的愤怒,然后转向以色列在战争中的行为。他说,最近在加沙的袭击似乎意在使其“无法居住,至少对其现有居民而言”。他补充说,“以色列对围困的管理方式意味着——而且从远处看似乎意在意味着——苦难不会有尽头,不会有持续的缓解,直到取得最终的、彻底的胜利,而这种胜利在道德上从来就不可能,在战略上大概也不可能,而且没有人真正相信。”更重要的是,“一旦有了政治途径可以击败哈马斯并解救人质,这场战争就变得非正义了。在不摧毁加沙、不驱逐其全部或大部分居民就无法取胜的情况下,试图赢得战争”是“一种犯罪性的努力”。

The hall, by this point, was quiet. Walzer said that he did not trust the international reckoning regarding Israel’s actions that was sure to come. He wanted Israelis to do the reckoning themselves. “Please get it right,” he said.

此时,大厅里一片寂静。沃尔泽说,他不信任关于以色列行为的国际清算——那肯定会到来。他希望以色列人自己进行清算。“请把它搞对,”他说。

The applause that followed was intense but sad. There were two more speakers: the Palestinian jurist and philosopher Raef Zreik, who argued that Walzer’s attempt to apply just-war theory to Israel and Palestine was rendered moot by his fundamental misreading of the founding of Israel, and a professor of American history named Yael Sternhell, who compared the situation of Palestinians in Israel to that of African Americans in the South after the Civil War. When they were finished, members of the audience went to where Walzer was sitting, surrounded by family, and offered congratulations. I joined them. He looked more curved by age than he had when I first interviewed him, two and a half years before; he held a cane. I asked if he was happy. That wasn’t the word, he said. Honored, rather. There had been some strong criticism of his work, I noted. Walzer smiled and gestured to a hearing aid. “I could not hear all of it, but I’ll read them,” he said. “Let us talk about it soon over Zoom.”

随后的掌声热烈而悲伤。还有两位发言者:巴勒斯坦法学家和哲学家拉伊夫·兹雷克(Raef Zreik),他论证说,沃尔泽试图将正义战争理论应用于以色列和巴勒斯坦,但由于他对以色列建国的根本性误读,这一尝试失去了意义;另一位是美国史教授雅埃尔·斯特恩赫尔(Yael Sternhell),她将巴勒斯坦人在以色列的处境比作内战后美国南方非裔美国人的处境。他们讲完后,观众中有人走到沃尔泽坐着的地方——他被家人围绕着——向他表示祝贺。我也加入了他们。他看起来比我两年半前第一次采访他时更加佝偻;他拄着一根手杖。我问他是否高兴。他说,这个词不对。应该说是荣幸。我指出,对他的作品有一些强烈的批评。沃尔泽微笑着指了指一个助听器。“我没有全听到,但我会读的,”他说。“我们很快通过Zoom谈谈吧。”

We spoke a week and a half later. Walzer responded thoughtfully to each of the critiques, but without backing down. He may change his mind on things, but he does so slowly, and, once he moves in one direction, he does not retreat.

一周半后我们通了话。沃尔泽对每一项批评都做了深思熟虑的回应,但没有退让。他可能会在某些事情上改变想法,但他改变得很慢,而且一旦朝某个方向移动,就不会后退。

This made his one notable shift during our nearly three years of conversation all the more striking: the wall between jus ad bellum and jus in bello, which had sustained his theory for almost half a century, was no longer sturdy. Walzer thought the matter through aloud with me, at one point letting out a small chuckle at his intellectual perplexity. A few minutes later, he looked down, leaning toward the screen and speaking with resignation. “There is a sense in which the carnage of Gaza, the ongoing carnage, simply made the war unjust,” he said. “Did the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? I thought they were violations of jus in bello, but you could say they made the war unjust. It went beyond a war crime. I don’t know how to explain it.”

这使得他在我们近三年对话中唯一一次显著的转变更加引人注目:诉诸战争权与战时法之间的那堵墙——支撑了他的理论近半个世纪——不再坚固了。沃尔泽和我一起把这个问题想了一遍,有一刻他对自己思想上的困惑发出了一声轻笑。几分钟后,他低下头,向屏幕倾身,带着一种认命的语气说话。“有一种意义上说,加沙的屠杀,持续不断的屠杀,干脆使这场战争变得非正义了,”他说。“广岛和长崎的轰炸呢?我认为那是违反战时法的,但你可以说它们使战争变得非正义了。它超越了战争罪。我不知道该怎么解释。”

I suggested an analogy with what, in his earlier work, he calls supreme emergencies: moments when you must do whatever it takes to preserve the “ongoingness” of your community. In those cases, your cause is so just that you are warranted to be immoral in protecting it. Perhaps, I said, on the other end of the spectrum, if your way of fighting surpasses the threshold of extreme carnage, the justice of your cause vanishes. “That sounds right to me. That sounds very good,” Walzer replied. “Most wars don’t reach anything like the carnage of Gaza,” he added. “Even the firebombings of German cities, which I thought was a war crime, I wonder—if it had gone on and on, if there had been five Dresdens, would that have made me think, No, this isn’t right anymore?”

我提出了一个类比,参照他早期作品中所说的“最高紧急状态”:那些你必须不惜一切代价来保全你社群“延续性”的时刻。在那些情况下,你的事业如此正义,以至于你有理由在保护它时做出不道德的行为。我说,也许在光谱的另一端,如果你的作战方式超过了极端屠杀的门槛,你事业的正义性就消失了。“这听起来是对的。这听起来非常好,”沃尔泽回答道。“大多数战争根本达不到加沙那种屠杀的程度,”他补充道。“即使是对德国城市的燃烧弹轰炸——我认为那是战争罪——我也在想,如果它一直持续下去,如果有五个德累斯顿,那会不会让我觉得,不,这不再是对的了?”

We spoke again in June. The Trump Administration had launched military operations in both Venezuela and Iran and did not seem terribly bothered about demonstrating any kind of right to do so. “I don’t think our ‘Secretary of War,’ as he calls himself, is a believer in even the language of just-war theory,” Walzer said. The opposition to these operations was still often couched in such language, though—and the Vice-President, J. D. Vance, a convert to Catholicism, invoked just-war theory as a defense after the Pope criticized American warmongering. I asked Walzer if he thought that American foreign policy would ever be guided by such principles again, or if we lived in a permanently hardened world. “We’ll get a sense of that in November,” he said. “I hope this is a temporary aberration in American political history, but I can’t tell you that that’s what it is.”

六月我们又通了话。特朗普政府已经在委内瑞拉和伊朗发动了军事行动,而且似乎并不太在意展示任何这样做的权利。“我不认为我们的‘战争部长’——他这样自称——相信正义战争理论的语言,哪怕是这种语言本身,”沃尔泽说。不过,对这些行动的反对仍然常常用这种语言来表达——而且,副总统J·D·万斯(J. D. Vance),一位皈依天主教的教徒,在教皇批评美国的好战行为后,援引正义战争理论作为辩护。我问沃尔泽,他是否认为美国外交政策还会再次受到这些原则的指导,或者我们是否生活在一个永久硬化了的世界里。“我们会在十一月对此有所感知,”他说。“我希望这只是美国政治史上的一次暂时偏差,但我不能告诉你它就是那样。”

On a more personal level, I was curious if the war in Gaza had changed Walzer’s relationship with the left—if it had altered his sense of where he belonged. He told me that he felt “radically alienated from Dissent,” his old magazine, but not only on account of Gaza; he also disagreed with its coverage of Ukraine and a “whole range of things,” he said. “The old Dissent always believed in the necessity of fighting on two fronts: against the authoritarian left and against the capitalist right, always,” he said. “And what’s happened with the American left right now is that they’re fighting only on one front.”

在更个人的层面上,我很好奇加沙战争是否改变了沃尔泽与左翼的关系——是否改变了他对自己归属感的认识。他告诉我,他感到与《异议》——他的老杂志——“彻底疏远了”,但不仅仅是因为加沙;他还不同意它对乌克兰的报道以及“一整套事情”,他说。“老的《异议》总是相信有必要在两条战线上作战:反对威权左翼和反对资本主义右翼,一直都是,”他说。“而美国左翼现在发生的情况是,他们只在一条战线上作战。”

But for him the real conflict was not with others, he said. It was internal. He mentioned an old friend who had written to him, early in 2024, to tell him that he was pulling his punches, that he was not writing about Israel’s war in Gaza the way he had written about Vietnam. Was the friend right? “Well, look,” Walzer replied. “I wrote about Vietnam years after the war was over.” He had condemned the siege of Gaza from the first days of the war, but the bombing, for him, was different. Israeli friends had kept assuring him that the I.D.F. was choosing its targets carefully, he said. “Maybe I was late in concluding that that wasn’t entirely true—that there was a policy for parts of Gaza to be made uninhabitable,” he said. A moment later, he added, “I was certainly slow to see that.”

但对他来说,真正的冲突不是与他人的,他说。是内在的。他提到一位老朋友在2024年初写信给他,说他在留有余地,说他没有像写越南战争那样写以色列在加沙的战争。那位朋友说得对吗?“嗯,你看,”沃尔泽回答道。“我写越南是在战争结束多年之后。”他从战争最初几天就谴责了对加沙的围困,但轰炸对他来说是不同的。以色列朋友一直在向他保证,以色列国防军在选择目标时非常谨慎,他说。“也许我迟迟才得出结论,认为那并不完全是真的——认为对加沙部分地区存在一种使其无法居住的政策,”他说。片刻之后,他补充道:“我确实很晚才看到这一点。”

I heard regret in his reply, but also, I thought, still, self-assurance—a belief that he had done his best, whatever his faults, and that he had remained faithful to his underlying convictions, which had not changed. At one point, he reminded me that his critique of pacifism was formed when he was ten years old. I had asked Walzer, in an earlier conversation, what he hoped his legacy might be, now that he was ninety. He waited a long time before answering, and I got the sense that what he told me was what he would have said years, even decades, before, and that it was what he would say to me for as long as he was able. “I wanted to make it possible for people to talk about war in a way that would facilitate ending wars,” he said. “I wanted people to talk about politics in a way that would encourage egalitarianism. And I wanted to help, in the ways available to me, which were small ways, to make Jewish life more secure.” ♦

我在他的回答中听到了遗憾,但我想,也仍然听到了自信——一种信念,即无论他有什么缺点,他已经尽了最大努力,而且他始终忠于自己根本的信念,这些信念没有改变。有一次,他提醒我,他对和平主义的批判是在他十岁时形成的。在早前的一次谈话中,我问过沃尔泽,既然他已经九十岁了,他希望自己的遗产是什么。他等了很长时间才回答,我感觉到,他告诉我的内容是他多年前——甚至几十年前——就会说的话,而且只要他还能说话,他就会对我说同样的话。“我想让人们有可能以一种有助于结束战争的方式来谈论战争,”他说。“我想让人们以一种鼓励平等主义的方式来谈论政治。我想以我力所能及的方式——那些都是很小的方式——帮助让犹太人的生活更加安全。” ♦

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